The Behaviour Speak Podcast
Episodes

Friday Feb 17, 2023
Friday Feb 17, 2023
In Episode 68, Ben chats with Dr. Táhcita Medrado Mizael. Dr. Mizael is a behaviour analytic researcher based in São Paulo, Brasil. As a Black, Autistic woman, and member of the LGBTQA2S+ community, she brings a unique intersectional perspective to her research in stimulus equivalence, feminism, racism, and other areas of social justice in the Brazilian context.
Contact:
tahcitammizael@gmail.com
https://www.springer.com/journal/42822/updates/23543348
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics/Cultural
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethic
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
Articles Referenced:
Carvalho, A.A.S., Mizael, T.M. & Sampaio, A.A.S. (2022). Racial Prejudice and Police Stops: A Systematic Review of the Empirical Literature. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1213–1220. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00578-4
de Sousa, V.P., Mizael, T.M. & de Rose, J.C. (2022). Variables involved in the acquisition and maintenance of racial aggression and its victims’ reactions. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1151–1160. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00696-7
Mizael, T.M. (2021). Behavior Analysis and Feminism: Contributions From Brazil. Behavior and Social Issues, 30, 481–494. https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-021-00067-x
Mizael, T.M., Coelho, C.L., Rodrigues, W.C. et al. (2021). Racial Issues and Behavior Analysis: Experiences and Contributions From Brazil. Behavior and Social Issues, 30, 495–513. https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-021-00071-1
Mizael, T.M., de Almeida, J.H., Silveira, C.C. et al. (2016). Changing Racial Bias by Transfer of Functions in Equivalence Classes. Psychological Record, 66, 451–462. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40732-016-0185-0
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Victoria Suarez: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-21-the-effects-of-empathy-training-on-racial-bias-and-other-research-from-dr-victoria-suarez-phd-bcba-d
Natalia Baires: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d
Val Saini: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-27-translational-research-digeorge-syndrome-and-a-little-dash-of-metacontingencies-with-valdeep-saini-phd-bcba-d
Links:
St Mary’s Residential School - Kenora Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/st-marys-residential-school-1.6716724#:~:text=the%20release%20said.-,St.,died%20while%20attending%20the%20school
Institute For Urban Education at The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee: https://uwm.edu/education/institute-urban-edu
KABAS: https://www.kalamazooschool.org/about-us
Scientific Framework For Compassion and Social Justice: https://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Framework-Compassion-Social-Justice/dp/0367676184
Interview on Shades of ABA: https://anchor.fm/shadesofaba/episodes/Run-Me-My-Money-Income-Inequality-e16s4bh/a-a6favt2
Curtis Jones: https://uwm.edu/officeofresearch/people/jones-curtis
Linda Darling-Hammond: https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/ldh

Friday Feb 17, 2023
Friday Feb 17, 2023
In Episode 69, Ben chats with Denise Ross-Page, Ph.D., BCBA-D, Margo Uwayo, Ph.D., BCBA, Mya Hernandez, Ph.D., BCBA-D, and Amoy Kito-Hugh, Ph.D., BCBA. They take a deep dive into how educators can provide culturally responsive instruction, the barriers for marginalized children, literacy, and so much more!
Call For Papers: Literacy and Social Justice: https://www.springer.com/journal/42822/updates/23543348
Contact:
Denise Ross
rossde@uwm.edu
Mya Hernandez
mhernandez@lakemichigancollege.edu
Amoy Kito-Hugh
drhughpennie@gmail.co
https://infinitybehavior.com/about-us
Margo Uwayo
uwayomutete@gmail.com
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 Ethics
Articles Referenced:
Hugh-Pennie, A. K., Hernandez, M., Uwayo, M., Johnson, G., & Ross, D. (2021). Culturally Relevant Pedagogy and Applied Behavior Analysis: Addressing Educational Disparities in PK-12 Schools. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 15(4), 1161–1169. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00655-8
Ladson-Billings, G. (1995). Toward a Theory of Culturally Relevant Pedagogy. American Educational Research Journal, 32(3), 465–491. https://doi.org/10.3102/00028312032003465
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Grant Bruno https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/
Nicole Hollins https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins/
May Beaubrun https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba/
Links:
St Mary’s Residential School - Kenora Ontario
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/st-marys-residential-school-1.6716724#:~:text=the%20release%20said.-,St.,died%20while%20attending%20the%20school
Institute For Urban Education at The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
https://uwm.edu/education/institute-urban-edu/
KABAS
https://www.kalamazooschool.org/about-us
Scientific Framework For Compassion and Social Justice
https://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Framework-Compassion-Social-Justice/dp/0367676184
Interview on Shades of ABA
https://anchor.fm/shadesofaba/episodes/Run-Me-My-Money-Income-Inequality-e16s4bh/a-a6favt2
Curtis Jones
https://uwm.edu/officeofresearch/people/jones-curtis
Linda Darling-Hammond
https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/ldh

Friday Feb 03, 2023
Friday Feb 03, 2023
In Episode 67, Ben chats with Drs. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Jonathan Tarbox. This conversation digs deep into humility, compassion, and reflection. They apply these concepts to imposter syndrome, empathy, kindness, service, and more.
Host Note: This was by far one of the most personally impactful interviews I've done. I have so much gratitude for Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi's mentorship. She has taught me so much about recognizing and acknowledging my own biases (and do I ever have A LOT of biases) and most of all she taught me the true value of sitting with my discomfort. Similarly, Dr. Tarbox has been such a model for me. He has shown me over and over again how someone with so much power and privilege in our field can use that power to be of service to others and uplift voices. SO MUCH GRATITUDE!
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 DEI/Ethics
Articles Referenced:
Cirincione-Ulezi, N. (2020). Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA. Behav Analysis Practice, 13, 719–724. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00444-9
Strauss, C., Lever Taylor, B., Gu, J., Kuyken, W., Baer, R., Jones, F., & Cavanagh, K. (2016). What is compassion and how can we measure it? A review of definitions and measures. Clinical psychology review, 47, 15–27. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpr.2016.05.004
Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. (2022). ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Grant Bruno: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate
Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Elizabeth Hughes-Fong: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-53-cultural-competence-in-behaviour-analysis-how-far-have-we-come-with-dr-elizabeth-hughes-fong
Terra Vance Episodes: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-54; https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-55-applied-behavior-analysis-reform-is-it-even-a-possiblity-with-terra-vance-part-2
May Beaubrun Episode: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba
Web Links:
Jen Ashlee - Link Raven Winged Consulting IG page
https://www.ravenwinged.com
https://www.instagram.com/raven_winged_consulting
Monica Smiley BCBA
https://www.linkedin.com/in/monica-smiley-06b02639/
Tarbox Behavioural View Episode
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-behavioral-view-2-compassionate-care-with/id1569666510?i=1000523311432
Marshal Rosenberg Non-Violent Communication
https://www.amazon.ca/Nonviolent-Communication-Compassion-Marshall-Rosenberg/dp/1892005026

Friday Jan 20, 2023
Episode 65: AAC Advocacy with Tiffany Joseph of Nigh Functioning Autism
Friday Jan 20, 2023
Friday Jan 20, 2023
In Episode 65, Ben chats with Tiffany Joseph, producer of Nigh Functioning Autism. Tiffany is a mom to three children two of whom are diagnosed with autism and ADHD. Tiffany, who is Autistic herself, is also a user of Augmentative and Alternate Communication (AAC) and does a lot of advocacy work for both Autistics and AAC users. In this episode, Tiffany communicates almost entirely using her speech-generating AAC device and none of the pauses where Tiffany is typing on her device are removed from the recording so listeners can understand what communication with an AAC user is really like. We discuss important issues like AAC Trauma, oralism, and the presumption of competence in all users.
The video recording of this episode will also be published on YouTube so listeners can experience the full interaction. The secret words will not be on the videos so it's suggested that you play the audio track while watching the video on mute.
Here's the link to the video: https://youtu.be/5qAJtBGZzKA
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Learning
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural
QABA: 2.0 Trauma-Informed Care
Contact Tiffany:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nigh.functioning.autism
Linktree: https://lnk.bio/autism
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 45 - Tiffany Hammond: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-45-advocating-for-systemic-change-with-tiffany-hammond-of-fidgets-fries
Episode 47 - Katie Rinald: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode47-toilet-training-what-s-the-point-with-dr-katie-rinald
Web Links:
Tiffany Hammond's Book - A Day With No Words: https://a.co/d/9jQw3QB
Dynavox: https://us.tobiidynavox.com
Proloquo: https://www.assistiveware.com/products/proloquo
Alex Magnussen TedxTalk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP470cMTBFM

Thursday Dec 29, 2022
Episode 62: Addressing Racial Bias in Education with May Beaubrun, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA
Thursday Dec 29, 2022
Thursday Dec 29, 2022
In Episode 62, Ben chats with May Beaubrun on the topic of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the education system. May discusses the history of education in America going back over 400 years and how many of these systems are still active today. She tells us about how to achieve cultural responsivity in schools and takes a deep dive into disproportionality.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 Ethics
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 49 - Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Web Links:
eCornell DEI Course: https://ecornell.cornell.edu/certificates/leadership-and-strategic-management/diversity-equity-and-inclusion
New Heart New Life by Chriseline Beaubrun: https://www.amazon.ca/New-Heart-Life-Chriseline-Beaubrun/dp/1640797173
Culturally Responsive Tiered Fidelity Inventory: https://www.pbis.org/resource/integrated-tiered-fidelity-inventory-companion-guide
Questions To Ask When Developing Culturally Responsive Curricula: https://www.amle.org/12-questions-to-ask-when-designing-culturally-and-historically-responsive-curriculum
Articles Referenced:
Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9

Friday Dec 02, 2022
Friday Dec 02, 2022
In this episode, Ben chats with Landria Seals Green, a Speech-Language Pathologist, and Board Certified Behaviour Analyst. They cover topics including collaboration with other professionals, the anti-ABA movement, peer-mediated learning, mentorship, and more!
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Supervision
IBAO: 1.5 Supervision
QABA: 1.5 Supervision
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 7 - Thea Brian: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-7-peer-mediated-interventions-with-thea-brain-ma-phd-candidate-bcba
Episode 42 - Anita Li: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-a-deep-dive-into-the-inequities-professorship-and-authorship-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-anita-li-phd-bcba-d
Episode 45 - Tiffany Hammond: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-45-advocating-for-systemic-change-with-tiffany-hammond-of-fidgets-fries
Web Links:
Landria's Website: https://landriagreen.com
The Huddle: https://www.thehuddle.online
Landria's Linkedin profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/landriagreen/
Lakesha Cobbs-Hayes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lakeyshac

Friday Oct 07, 2022
Friday Oct 07, 2022
In Episode 49 Ben talks with Nicole Hollins, Ph.D., BCBA-D, about her work towards equitable multi-tiered positive behavioural interventions and supports in school settings. We also dive into her doctoral dissertation, which focused on improving the effectiveness of online instructional procedures. In the last quarter of the episode, we pivot to a discussion of her excellent article comparing client mistreatment to police brutality.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
General Information:
Dr. Nicole Hollins:
https://www.edbeeconsultations.com
https://lifespan.ku.edu/people/nicole-hollins
Show Notes:
First Voices: https://www.firstvoices.com
First Voices App: https://www.firstvoices.com/content/apps
Juniper Gardens: https://juniper.ku.edu/juniper-home
ABA Inside Track Cody Morris Interview: https://www.abainsidetrack.com/home/2021/7/28/episode-174-police-brutality
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 14: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-14-do-we-really-need-to-sit-on-santa-s-lap-body-autonomy-consent-sex-toys-and-lube-with-landa-fox-ma-bcba-cshe
Episode 26: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d
Articles Referenced:
Dr. Hollins’ Thesis: https://www.proquest.com/openview/096d1c1e63a0509417f6a4bd49dfc79c/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y
Morris, C., Hollins, N.A. (2021). On the uncanny similarities between police brutality and client mistreatment. Behavior Analysis in Practice. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00576-6
Stevenson, N.A., VanLone, J. & Barber, B.R. (2020). A commentary on the misalignment of teacher education and the need for classroom behavior management skills. Education and Treatment of Children, 43, 393–404. https://doi.org/10.1007/s43494-020-00031-1

Friday Sep 09, 2022
Episode 45: Autistic Advocacy with Tiffany Hammond
Friday Sep 09, 2022
Friday Sep 09, 2022
In this episode, we sit down with Tiffany Hammond, best known on social media as Fidgets and Fries. Tiffany is a Black Autistic mother of two Black Autistic boys. Across these intersecting identities, Tiffany tirelessly advocates for systemic change.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 DEI
General Information:
Tiffany Hammond: https://lnk.bio/fidgets.and.fries

Tuesday Oct 05, 2021
Episode 22: Cultural Competence with Jessica Bethel, M.Ed., BCBA
Tuesday Oct 05, 2021
Tuesday Oct 05, 2021
In this episode, Ben chats with Jessica Bethel, a board certified behaviour analyst based in Ontario, Canada. Jessica shares her experiences as a Black behaviour analyst and provides a succinct roadmap with resources to help behaviour analysts build their own cultural competency.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.0 Ethics
Show Notes:
Rapworkers Assessment Tool: http://rapworkers.com/resources/cultural-competence
Link to File of Resources: Https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Frutgers.box.com%2Fs%2Fog8q0vtz5ok541b3hj3c7e9m7a73jak1/view/800101507461
Mohawk College: https://www.mohawkcollege.ca/ce/programs/community-services-and-support/autism-and-behavioural-science-164
ONTABA: https://ontaba.org
International Behavior Analysis Organization: https://ibaboard.com
Autism Ontario: https://www.autismontario.com
Ontario Autism Provider List: https://oapproviderlist.ca
The Autism and/or Intellectual Disability Knowledge Exchange Network: https://aidecanada.ca
The Behaviour Speak Podcast episode with Danielle Reid: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-1-racism
Jessica Bethel:
Email: Jessica.Bethel4@gmail.com
Link to the article Jessica wrote: https://www.autismontario.com/news/racism-canada-acknowledge-reflect-act

Friday Sep 03, 2021
Friday Sep 03, 2021
In this episode, Ben chats with Wes Lowery, a managing partner with TeamABA where he focuses on Sport Behaviour Analytics. This episode was fun to record in that the discussion centred around areas outside of behaviour support and autism. Wes’ passion for working in this sector is infectious and really opens your mind to so many other applications of behaviour analysis.
Contact:
Wesj@completeperformance.io
https://sports.completeperformance.io
Show Notes:
Approaching Professional Burnout in Behavior Analysis Through Precision Acceptance & Commitment Training (PACT): https://teamabauniversity.com/courses/burnout
University of North Texas: https://www.unt.edu/academics/grad/behavior-analysis
TeamABA: https://teamaballc.com
Kirk Kirby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirkkirby
TeamABA University: https://teamabauniversity.com
Behavior Chef: https://www.behaviorchef.com
Bearded Behaviorist Todd Ward Interview: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/oh-behave-podcast/oh-behave-side-quest-with-5j2VWdtK0JH

Friday Mar 19, 2021
Friday Mar 19, 2021
In this episode Ben chats with Maleshwane Mauco, a board-certified behaviour analyst from Botswana in southern Africa. Maleshwane shares her experiences going to school in the US and practicing in Ireland, the Middle East, and Africa navigating different cultures. This culturally diverse journey had her writing programs to herd goats and how to call a butler.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.0 Ethics
IBAO: 1.0 Ethics/Cultural
QABA: 1.0 DEI
Contact:
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maleshwane-shwane-mauco-bcba-53969815/
Show Notes:
May Institute: https://www.mayinstitute.org
New England Center for Children: https://www.necc.org
Northeastern University ABA Program: https://www.northeastern.edu/graduate/program/master-of-science-in-applied-behavior-analysis-628
D.A.N. (Defeat Autism Now): https://quackwatch.org/consumer-education/nonrecorg/dan
Apartheid: https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/history-apartheid-south-africa
Louka Tsami - Telehealth World ABA Project: https://www.uhcl.edu/autism-center/telehealth
Southern Africa Development Community: https://sadc.int
SABA: http://saba.abainternational.org
BACB and Global Certification: https://www.bacb.com/global-certification
IDEA: https://sites.ed.gov/idea

Monday Jan 11, 2021
Monday Jan 11, 2021
In our first episode I speak with Danielle Reid, MSc., BCBA, who shares her personal story of coming to Canada from Trinidad & Tobago in terms of her experiences with racism in both the community at large and within the field of behaviour analysis.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Ethics/Cultural
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
Contact:
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/dannyellereid/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-reid-9a2a3555/
Resources referred to in this episode:
https://www.bacb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/BACB-Compliance-Code-english_190318.pdf
http://www.internationaltrainingcenterabaafrica.com/BACB_Conduct_Guidelines.pdf
Douglas College DABA program:
https://www.douglascollege.ca/program/atdaba