The Behaviour Speak Podcast
Episodes

Friday Jul 25, 2025
Episode 224: Colorism in Context with Dr. Danielle Jeudy
Friday Jul 25, 2025
Friday Jul 25, 2025
In this conversation, Dr. Danielle Jeudy discusses her journey into behaviour analysis and her research on colorism, exploring its impact on education, employment, and societal beauty standards. She shares personal experiences and insights into the implications of skin tone bias, the practice of skin bleaching, and the historical context of colorism. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding these dynamics in various cultural contexts and the need for broader conversations around privilege and identity
Watch on YouTube! https://youtu.be/3MmLL8T6_d8
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BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 CulturalQABA: 1.5 Ethics
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Contact:
Dr. Danielle Jeudy at Navigate Behavioral Health
https://www.navigatebh.com/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-s-jeudy-phd-bcba-d-lba-14a69b3a/
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Links:
Upcoming Registered Behavior Technician Training
https://continuinged.middlesexcc.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=4247616
Black Applied Behavior Analysts Conference 2025
https://babainfo.org/conference/
Articles Referenced:
Jeudy, D.S., Andrews, M., Mittelman, C., & Beck, C. (2025). Changing the Narrative: A Contextual Behavioral Science Approach to Colorism. Journal of Colorism Studies, 6 (1), 0_1-27.
Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes:
Episode 223 Building Community in Behavior Analysis with Dr. Jewel Parham
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-223-building-community-in-behavior-analysis-with-dr-jewel-parham/
Episode 214 Cultural Humilty in Behavior Analysis with Quintara Tucker
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-214-cultural-humility-in-behavior-analysis-with-quintara-tucker/
Episode 136 From Bias to Balance: Anti-racism in Behavior Analysis
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-136-from-bias-to-balance-antiracism-in-behavior-analysis-with-sonia-levy-phd-bcba/
Episode 68 Racism, Feminism. And Behavior Analysis in Brasil with Dr. Táhcita Medrado Mizael
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-68-racism-feminism-in-brazil-with-drs-tahcita-medrado-mizael/
Our first episode: A Behaviour Analyst’s Experience with Racism in Canada with Danielle Reid
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-1-racism/

Friday May 09, 2025
Friday May 09, 2025
In this episode, Dr. Vera Viran discusses her research on the experiences of Indo-Caribbeans in America, focusing on cultural identity, values, and the impact of socioeconomic factors. She highlights the challenges of navigating multiple cultural identities, the importance of shared experiences within community groups, and the historical context of migration. The conversation also delves into integrating acceptance and commitment therapy in her research, gender roles, and the implications for behavior analytic practice.
Watch the video of this conversation here!: https://youtu.be/sub88yCwkrc
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO/AUABA: 1.5 CulturalQABA: 1.5 Ethics
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Contact:
Dr. Vera Veran
Viran Integrative Therapy
https://www.viran-integrativetherapy.com/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/veraviran/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/vera.viran/
Links:
Dr. Sarika Persaud
https://www.drsarikapersaud.com/publications
Brown Gyal Diary
https://www.browngyaldiary.com/post/brown-girl-bosses-meet-vera-viran-behaviour-analyst-and-ph-d-candidate
Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes
Episode 108 with Dr. Naima Bhana-Lopez
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-108-culturally-affirming-special-education-in-panamanian-and-muslim-culture-with-dr-naima-bhana-lopez/
Episode 93 Behavior Analysis in the Caribbean with Kim Woolery, Gabi Torres, and Sloane Pharr Strang
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-93-behaviour-analysis-in-the-caribbean-with-kim-woolery-gabi-torres-and-sloane-pharr-strang/

Friday Mar 14, 2025
Friday Mar 14, 2025
In this conversation, Asmahan discusses the critical need for improved safeguarding strategies in education, particularly in the context of sexual health and behavior management. She emphasizes the importance of cultural responsiveness in her work within the Arab world, highlighting the skills necessary for effective intervention. Asmahan explains the concept of behavioral activation, detailing how it can be adapted to address inappropriate sexual behaviors while respecting cultural values. The conversation also touches on her research findings, which demonstrate the effectiveness of behavioral activation in reducing such behaviors, and the practical steps involved in implementing this approach with families. She emphasizes the role of caregivers in sexual health education, the cultural and legal barriers faced in the Arab world, and the necessity of tailoring sexual health curricula to fit cultural contexts.
This episode is on You Tube! https://youtu.be/BeEcSi5xz6I
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
We also offer certificates of attendance!
Follow Behaviour Speak!
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Contact Asmahan
https://drasmahan.com/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/dr.asmahan.sk/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/asmahan-saleh-ph-d-bcba-d-5737a939/
Zayed University
https://www.zu.ac.ae/
ABA Lebanon
https://abal-lebanon.com/
https://www.facebook.com/abalebanon/
Research Articles Referenced:
Ala’i-Rosales, S., Cihon, J. H., Currier, T. D., Ferguson, J. L., Leaf, J. B., Leaf, R., ... & Weinkauf, S. M. (2019). The big four: Functional assessment research informs preventative behavior analysis. Behavior analysis in practice, 12, 222-234.
Kolu, T. C. (2023). Providing buffers, solving barriers: Value-driven policies and actions that protect clients today and increase the chances of thriving tomorrow. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 1-20.
Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes
Episode 149: Behavior Analysis in Saudi Arabia with Dr. Shahad Alsharif
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-149-behaviouranalysis-in-saudi-arabia-with-dr-shahad-alsharif/
Episode 139 Threads of Hope: Addressing Trauma Amid War and Civil Discord with Sawsan Razzouk
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-139threads-of-hope-addressing-trauma-amid-war-and-civil-discord-with-sawsan-razzouk-ma-bcba/
Episode 94 Behavior Analysis in Lebanon and Qatar with Rola El-Annan
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-94-behaviour-analysis-in-lebanon-and-qatar-with-rola-el-annan-med-bcba/

Friday Dec 06, 2024
Friday Dec 06, 2024
In this episode, Ben speaks with Drs. Traci Cihon, Kiyo Kazaoka, and Albert Malkin. This conversation delves into the emerging field of Culturo-Behavior Science, exploring its historical roots, practical applications, and the personal journeys of the speakers within this discipline. The discussion highlights the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration, the challenges faced by behavior analysts, and the opportunities for future growth and career paths in this evolving field.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 LearningIBAO: 1.5 LearningQABA: 1.5 General
Contact:
The Culturo-Behavior Science Innovation Lab
cbsinlab@gmail.com
Traci Cihon
https://www.linkedin.com/in/traci-cihon-801bb9324/
Albert Malkin
https://www.edu.uwo.ca/about/faculty-profiles/albert-malkin/index.html
Doctor of Education Program at the University of Western Ontario
https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/applied-behaviour-analysis.html
Kiyo Kazaoka
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiyo-kazaoka-01329638/
Articles and Books Referenced
Cihon, T. M. (2023). Advancing research and practice in Culturo-Behavior Science: A call to action. Behavior and Social Issues, 32(2), 339-359.
Cihon, T. M., & Mattaini, M. A. (Eds.). (2020). Behavior science perspectives on culture and community. Springer.
Krispin, J. Culturo-behavioral Hypercycles and the Metacontingency: Incorporating Self-Organizing Dynamics into an Expanded Model of Cultural Change. Perspect Behav Sci 42, 869–887 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40614-019-00212-3
Malagodi, E. F. (1986). On radicalizing behaviorism: A call for cultural analysis. The Behavior Analyst, 9, 1–17. https://doi.org/10.1007/bf03391925
Malagodi, E. F., & Jackson, K. (1989). Behavior analysts and cultural analysis: Troubles and issues. The Behavior Analyst, 12, 17–33. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF03392474
Mattaini, M. A. (2013). Strategic nonviolent power: The science of satyagraha. Athabasca University Press.
Mobus, G. E., & Kalton, M. C. (2014). Principles of systems science. Springer.
Mobus, G. E. (2022). Systems science: Theory, analysis, modeling, and design. Springer Nature.
Reid, D. H., Luyben, P. D., Rawers, R. J., & Bailey, J. S. (1976). Newspaper recycling behavior: The effects of prompting and proximity of containers. Environment and Behavior, 8(3), 471-482. https://doi.org/10.1177/136327527600800307
Skinner, B. F. (1981). Selection by consequences. Science, 213(4507), 501–504. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.7244649
Links:
Culturo-Behavior Science Verified Course Sequence
https://www.abainternational.org/vcs/culturo-behavior-science.aspx
Behaviorists for Social Responsibility
https://bfsr.abainternational.org/
https://iba.abainternational.org/2024/10/28/behaviorists-for-social-responsibility-sig/
Ontario Behaviourists for Social Responsibility
https://www.obfsr.org/
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced
Episode 35 with Dennis Reid
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-35-staff-training-and-supervision-with-dr-dennis-reid-phd-bcba-d/
Episodes 43 and 44 with Dr. Joe Lucyshyn
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2/
Episode 89 with Bukky Akinwale
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-89-tales-by-moonlight-storytelling-for-youths-and-elders-in-a-historically-black-community-with-bukky-akinwale/
Episode 133 with Traci and Joe Cihon
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-133-meet-the-cihons-siblings-in-science-with-drs-traci-and-joe-cihon/
Episode 168 with Trina Spencer
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-168-tending-the-garden-an-intimate-conversation-with-dr-trina-spencer/

Friday Mar 01, 2024
Friday Mar 01, 2024
In Episode 143, we continue the conversation that started in Episode 95 with Claire Zuch on Relational Density Theory. In Claire's episode, we dug deep into RDT and looked at ableism using this fascinating new theory. In this conversation with Claire's co-authors and colleagues, Elana Sickman digs into gender stereotyping using RDT as a framework of analysis. This is a fascinating conversation with far-reaching implications for addressing important problems in the world!
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 LearningIBAO: 1.5 CulturalQABA: 1.5 DEI
Contact:
lsickman@ego.thechicagoschool.edu
Links:
Dr. Jordan Belisle on RFT/RDT
Dr. Jordan Belisle on Moving Toward Model Thinking | TCE #036https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfhWrD_5LWg
Relational Frame Theory: A Basic Rundown by Jordan Belisle, PhD, BCBA, LBAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DANpZdD5as
RDT Overview
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f_dmFudatLf0rJ8_holkoeQOJl2n8sVp/view?usp=sharing
Dana Palilunas
https://www.missouristate.edu/SMHBS/Psychology/PsyD/profile-display.aspx?p=DPaliliunas
Rocco Catrone’s BLEND Lab
https://www.linkedin.com/company/b-l-e-n-d/
PEAK Relational Training
https://www.peak2aba.com/
Lifespeed Behavioral Support Chicago
https://uptolifespeed.com/
Learning RFT by Nikolas Torneke
https://www.amazon.ca/Learning-RFT-Introduction-Relational-Application/dp/1572249064
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Claire Zuch Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-95-the-hub-lab-series-1-analyzing-stigma-and-ableism-against-autistics-using-relational-density-theory/
Vic Suarez Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-21-the-effects-of-empathy-training-on-racial-bias-and-other-research-from-dr-victoria-suarez-phd-bcba-d/
Rocco Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-46-using-relational-frame-theory-to-tackle-stigma-toward-persons-with-disabilities-with-dr-rocco-catrone/
Articles Referenced:
Elana Sickman, Jordan Belisle, Ashley Payne, Lauren Hutchison, Erin Travis,
An exploratory analysis of gender stereotyping using the theoretical framework of relational density theory, Journal of Contextual Behavioral Science, Volume 28, 2023, Pages 256-265,
ISSN 2212-1447, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jcbs.2023.04.007
Belisle, J., Payne, A., Sellers, B. et al. Modeling Complex Verbal Relations within Racial Stereotyping: A Translational Analysis of Relational Density. Behav. Soc. Iss. 32, 376–395 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-023-00134-5

Tuesday Feb 06, 2024
Tuesday Feb 06, 2024
In Episode 139, Ben chats with the brilliant and wonderful Sawsan Razzouk, a Lebanese behavior analyst who elegantly melds applied behavior analysis, acceptance and commitment training, and eye movement desensitization reprocessing therapy to address the effects of war. Sawson has experienced the trauma of war from the time she lay in her mother's womb as they fled wartime Liberia in the late 80s. Now working to support families in the West Bank, refugees escaping to Lebanon, and therapists on the front lines, Sawson and her colleagues are using what little resources they have available to them to effect change and build resilience for all affected by the horrors of war.
Watch on You Tube! https://youtu.be/Jru0TTcARs0
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural
QABA: 1.5 Trauma-Informed Care
Contact:
https://thepsychologyshuffle.com/
https://abal-lebanon.com/our-team
https://abal-lebanon.com/special-task-force
https://www.instagram.com/the_psychology_shuffle/
Links:
The American Arab, Middle Eastern, and North African Psychological Association
https://www.amenapsy.org/index.cfm
EMDR International
https://www.emdria.org/
Shabab Gaza
https://www.instagram.com/shababgaza/
The International Network for Aid Relief and Assistance (INARA)
https://inara.org/
Palestine Children's Relief Fund
https://www.pcrf.net/
Rola El-Annan on Behaviour Speak
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-94-behaviour-analysis-in-lebanon-and-qatar-with-rola-el-annan-med-bcba/
Bahaur Amini on Behaviour Speak
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-124-unveiling-narratives-navigating-challenges-embracing-strengths-and-increasing-the-visibility-of-arabmena-psychologists/

Friday Sep 01, 2023
Friday Sep 01, 2023
In this two-episode series Natalia Baires, Luisa Cañon, Mariela Castro Hostetler, Sebastian Garcia-Zambrano, and Patricia Guerrero join Ben to discuss their recent paper: A Contextual Behavioral Framework for Enhancing Cultural Responsiveness in Behavioral Service Delivery for Latino Families.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
Baires, N.A., Cañón, L.F., García-Zambrano, S. et al. A Contextual Behavioral Framework for Enhancing Cultural Responsiveness in Behavioral Service Delivery for Latino Families. Behav Analysis Practice (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-023-00788-y
Baires, N.A., Catrone, R. & May, B.K. On the Importance of Listening and Intercultural Communication for Actions against Racism. Behav Analysis Practice 15, 1042–1049 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00629-w
Canon, L.F., Gould, E.R. A Preliminary Analysis of the Effects of Clicker Training and Verbal Instructions on the Acquisition of Relationship-Building Skills in Two Applied Behavior Analysis Practitioners. Behav Analysis Practice 15, 383–396 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00555-x
Castro-Hostetler, M., Kille, I., Lopez, L.V. et al. Understanding the Role of Cultural Values in ABA Service Delivery: Perspectives from Latino Families. Behav. Soc. Iss. 32, 210–233 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-022-00115-0
Luisa F. Cañón, Evelyn R. Gould, Emily K. Sandoz, Orla Moran, Mikala A. Grimaldi, Cultural adaptation of ACT to support caregivers of autistic Latino children: A pilot study, Journal of Contextual Behavioral Science, Volume 28, 2023, Pages 1-9,
ISSN 2212-1447, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jcbs.2023.03.003
Rosales, R., Leon, A., Serna, R. W., et al. (2021). A first look at applied behavior analysis service delivery to Latino American families raising a child with autism spectrum disorder. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 14, 974-983. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00572-w
Interbehaviorism: A Comprehensive Guide to the Foundations of Kantor's Theory and Its Applications for Modern Behavior Analysis
https://www.amazon.ca/Interbehaviorism-Comprehensive-Foundations-Applications-Behavior-ebook/dp/B08WHD5RBZ
Institute For Effective Behavioral Interventions
http://iebionline.com/about-us/#team
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 30
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-30-a-conversation-with-dr-rocio-rosales-phd-bcba-d/
Episode 50
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-50-the-experiences-of-an-autistic-rbt-with-kaelynn-partlow/
ACT Matrix Episodes
Episode 20
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-20-consulting-in-group-homes-using-act-with-monica-peters-mads-bcba/
Episode 71
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-71-the-magic-of-the-act-matrix-with-mary-penrice-edmondson-ms-bcba-tina-long-med-bcba-and-monica-peters-mads-bcba/
Episode 85
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-85-online-act-matrix-parent-training-for-japanese-speaking-mothers-with-distress-applications-of-prevention-science-with-dryukie-kurumiya/

Friday Aug 25, 2023
Friday Aug 25, 2023
In this two-episode series Natalia Baires, Luisa Cañon, Mariela Castro Hostetler, Sebastian Garcia-Zambrano, and Patricia Guerrero join Ben to discuss their recent paper: A Contextual Behavioral Framework for Enhancing Cultural Responsiveness in Behavioral Service Delivery for Latino Families.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
Baires, N.A., Cañón, L.F., García-Zambrano, S. et al. A Contextual Behavioral Framework for Enhancing Cultural Responsiveness in Behavioral Service Delivery for Latino Families. Behav Analysis Practice (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-023-00788-y
Baires, N.A., Catrone, R. & May, B.K. On the Importance of Listening and Intercultural Communication for Actions against Racism. Behav Analysis Practice 15, 1042–1049 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00629-w
Canon, L.F., Gould, E.R. A Preliminary Analysis of the Effects of Clicker Training and Verbal Instructions on the Acquisition of Relationship-Building Skills in Two Applied Behavior Analysis Practitioners. Behav Analysis Practice 15, 383–396 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00555-x
Castro-Hostetler, M., Kille, I., Lopez, L.V. et al. Understanding the Role of Cultural Values in ABA Service Delivery: Perspectives from Latino Families. Behav. Soc. Iss. 32, 210–233 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-022-00115-0
Luisa F. Cañón, Evelyn R. Gould, Emily K. Sandoz, Orla Moran, Mikala A. Grimaldi, Cultural adaptation of ACT to support caregivers of autistic Latino children: A pilot study, Journal of Contextual Behavioral Science, Volume 28, 2023, Pages 1-9,
ISSN 2212-1447, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jcbs.2023.03.003
Rosales, R., Leon, A., Serna, R. W., et al. (2021). A first look at applied behavior analysis service delivery to Latino American families raising a child with autism spectrum disorder. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 14, 974-983. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00572-w
Interbehaviorism: A Comprehensive Guide to the Foundations of Kantor's Theory and Its Applications for Modern Behavior Analysis
https://www.amazon.ca/Interbehaviorism-Comprehensive-Foundations-Applications-Behavior-ebook/dp/B08WHD5RBZ
Institute For Effective Behavioral Interventions
http://iebionline.com/about-us/#team
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 30
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-30-a-conversation-with-dr-rocio-rosales-phd-bcba-d/
Episode 50
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-50-the-experiences-of-an-autistic-rbt-with-kaelynn-partlow/
ACT Matrix Episodes
Episode 20
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-20-consulting-in-group-homes-using-act-with-monica-peters-mads-bcba/
Episode 71
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-71-the-magic-of-the-act-matrix-with-mary-penrice-edmondson-ms-bcba-tina-long-med-bcba-and-monica-peters-mads-bcba/
Episode 85
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-85-online-act-matrix-parent-training-for-japanese-speaking-mothers-with-distress-applications-of-prevention-science-with-dryukie-kurumiya/

Friday Jul 07, 2023
Friday Jul 07, 2023
Episode 95 features a conversation with Claire Zuch, a graduate student in Dr. Jordan Bellisle's HUB lab whose work has been focused on the analysis of ableism and stigma against Autistic folks. Relational Density Theory is a complex and fascinating concept and Claire does a wonderful job of explaining RDT to a novice like myself. Claire notes that RDT is often easier to explain with a visual of something known as a geospace (see below). Claire discusses her plans to continue this research in her doctoral program with Dr. Mark Dixon and the importance of compensating Autistic participants for their labour.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
Contact Information:
Claire Zuch
https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-zuch-bb95521b9
https://www.facebook.com/MOStateHUBLab
Definitions:
Relational Density – The strength of the relationship between relational class members
Relational Volume – The size of the relational class
Relational Mass – A derivative of density and volume that predicts resistance to change
Relational Coherence – The distance between two or more classes that predicts the merging of relational classes
Relational Acceleration – The increasing rate of change of relational classes over time
Relational Deceleration – The decreasing rate of change of relational classes over time
Relational Relativity – The concept that all relational behaviors operate relative to other relational behavior and in dynamic ways
Links:
Dr. Jordan Belisle on RFT/RDT
Dr. Jordan Belisle on Moving Toward Model Thinking | TCE #036https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfhWrD_5LWg
Relational Frame Theory: A Basic Rundown by Jordan Belisle, PhD, BCBA, LBAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DANpZdD5as
Other Links:
Autistic Researchers Researching Autism
https://www.facebook.com/groups/236272016838118
Behaviour Speak Episodes Referenced:
Victoria Suarezhttps://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-21-the-effects-of-empathy-training-on-racial-bias-and-other-research-from-dr-victoria-suarez-phd-bcba-d
Marija Čolić https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-38-what-we-can-do-about-stigma-and-racism-using-behaviour-science-with-dr-marija-colic-phd-bcba-d
Rocco Catrone https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-46-using-relational-frame-theory-to-tackle-stigma-toward-persons-with-disabilities-with-dr-rocco-catrone

Friday May 26, 2023
Friday May 26, 2023
This conversation delves into the complexities of intimate partner violence (IPV), emphasizing the cyclical nature of abuse and the critical need for safety planning. The discussion highlights the unique challenges faced by victims, particularly those with immigration issues, and the importance of social support in navigating these situations. The role of functional communication in therapy for both victims and perpetrators is explored, along with the systemic gaps in resources for those seeking help. The conversation concludes with a focus on future initiatives aimed at improving support for survivors and addressing the needs of perpetrators to reduce recidivism.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Trauma-Informed Care
Contact Enasha
https://www.linkedin.com/in/enasha-anglade-ms-bcba-88931133/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/laughlovelive-again-miramar-fl/370038
Links:
Amie Zarling
https://faculty.sites.iastate.edu/azarling/people/amie-zarling
ACT Now ABA
https://www.actnowaba.com/who-we-are/
Related Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes
Episode 135 Addressing Human Trafficking With Behavior Analysis with Arturo Garcia
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-135-addressing-human-trafficking-with-behavior-analysis
Episode 140 Applications of Behavior Science to Foster Care, Runaways, The Homless, and Bullying with Kimberly Crosland
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-40-applications-of-behaviour-science-to-foster-care-runaways-the-homeless-and-bullying-with-kimberly-crosland-phd-bcba-d/

Friday May 19, 2023
Friday May 19, 2023
In Episode 85, Ben chats with Dr. Yukie Kurumiya about her work in prevention science using the ProSocial and ACT-Matrix. They dive deep into the origins of prevention science and ProSocial and visit her own community to discuss culturally responsive work with Japanese families.
Trigger Warning: This episode discusses the topics of suicide and school shootings. Listener discretion is advised.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural
QABA: 2.0 Ethics
Books and Articles mentioned for Behaviour Analysts (last name alphabetical):
Tony Biglan's work (articles, books, etc.) related to prevention science and CBS to address societal and global issues are also inspiring readings.
Sigrid Glenn's metatcontingencies and related articles will be amazing ones to read. One good example of their papers is this (co-authored). But there are more!
Biglan, A & Glenn, S. (2013). Toward prosocial behavior and environments: Behavioral and cultural contingencies in a public health framework. APA Handbook of Behavior Analysis. 2. 255-275. 10.1037/13938-010
Dixon, M.R., Hayes, S.C., & Belisle, J. (2023). Acceptance and Commitment Therapy for Behavior Analysts: A Practice Guide from Theory to Treatment (1st ed.). Routledge. https://doi.org/10.4324/9781003250371
Szabo,T. (2023). ACT and Applied Behavior Analysis: A Practical Guide to Ensuring Better Behavior Outcomes Using Acceptance and Commitment Training. Context Plus. ---- this book will be published and available to everyone soon, I know.
This view of life online magazine led by David Wilson may also inspire some listeners: https://www.prosocial.world/this-view-of-life-magazine
Prosocial book by Paul Atkins, David Wilson, and Steven Hayes.
Also, articles referenced in Dr. Kurumiya's published article that she talked about are good. So just in case, here is the reference to her paper and free download link (https://rdcu.be/cYQvG):
Kurumiya, Y., Garcia, Y., Griffith, A. K., & Szabo, T. G. (2022). Online ACT Matrix Parent Training for Japanese-Speaking Mothers with Distress in the United States. Journal of child and family studies, 31(12), 3514–3532. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10826-022-02477-w
Atkins, P. W. B., Wilson, D. S., & Hayes, S. C. (2019). Prosocial: Using evolutionary science to build productive, equitable, and collaborative groups. Context Press/New Harbinger Publications.
Tarbox, J., Szabo, T.G. & Aclan, M. Acceptance and Commitment Training Within the Scope of Practice of Applied Behavior Analysis. Behav Analysis Practice 15, 11–32 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00466-3
Pennypacker, H. & Perez, F. (2022) Engineering the Upswing: A Blueprint for Reframing Our Culture. Sloan Educational Publishing
Personal Analytics Companion (PACO: https://www.pacoapp.com/) - this is designed to facilitate ecological momentary assessments (EMA).

Friday Mar 03, 2023
Friday Mar 03, 2023
In Episode 71, Ben chats with Mary Penrice-Edmondson, Tina Long, and Monica Peters about the ACT Matrix. They dive into psychological flexibility and psychological safety, the ACT Matrix vs. The Prosocial Matrix, applications of the Matrix in group home and school settings and more!
Contact:
Mary Penrice-Edmondson
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-penrice-edmondson-644940107/
Monica Peters
https://www.linkedin.com/in/monica-peters-316a2a78/
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Learning
IBAO: 1.5 Learning
QABA: 1.5 General
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Marc Lanovaz
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-8-artificial-intelligence-and-behaviour-analysis-with-marc-lanovaz-phd-bcba-d
Monica Peters
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-20-consulting-in-group-homes-using-act-with-monica-peters-mads-bcba
Links:
Essential Guide to the ACT Matrix
https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Guide-Matrix-Step-Step/dp/1626253609
Verbal Aikido Book
https://www.amazon.ca/RFT-Verbal-AIkido-Turning-Peaceful/dp/B0BJNG81XM/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3LF4RSQIYLUD8&keywords=verbal+aikido&qid=1677815711&sprefix=verbal+akido%2Caps%2C818&sr=8-2
Tina Long’s Other Books
https://www.amazon.ca/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B09RTFC5P5?_encoding=UTF8&node=916520&offset=0&pageSize=12&searchAlias=stripbooks&sort=author-sidecar-rank&page=1&langFilter=default#formatSelectorHeader

Friday Feb 03, 2023
Friday Feb 03, 2023
In Episode 67, Ben chats with Drs. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi and Jonathan Tarbox. This conversation digs deep into humility, compassion, and reflection. They apply these concepts to imposter syndrome, empathy, kindness, service, and more.
Host Note: This was by far one of the most personally impactful interviews I've done. I have so much gratitude for Dr. Cirincione-Ulezi's mentorship. She has taught me so much about recognizing and acknowledging my own biases (and do I ever have A LOT of biases) and most of all she taught me the true value of sitting with my discomfort. Similarly, Dr. Tarbox has been such a model for me. He has shown me over and over again how someone with so much power and privilege in our field can use that power to be of service to others and uplift voices. SO MUCH GRATITUDE!
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 DEI/Ethics
Articles Referenced:
Cirincione-Ulezi, N. (2020). Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA. Behav Analysis Practice, 13, 719–724. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00444-9
Strauss, C., Lever Taylor, B., Gu, J., Kuyken, W., Baer, R., Jones, F., & Cavanagh, K. (2016). What is compassion and how can we measure it? A review of definitions and measures. Clinical psychology review, 47, 15–27. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpr.2016.05.004
Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. (2022). ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Grant Bruno: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate
Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Elizabeth Hughes-Fong: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-53-cultural-competence-in-behaviour-analysis-how-far-have-we-come-with-dr-elizabeth-hughes-fong
Terra Vance Episodes: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-54; https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-55-applied-behavior-analysis-reform-is-it-even-a-possiblity-with-terra-vance-part-2
May Beaubrun Episode: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba
Web Links:
Jen Ashlee - Link Raven Winged Consulting IG page
https://www.ravenwinged.com
https://www.instagram.com/raven_winged_consulting
Monica Smiley BCBA
https://www.linkedin.com/in/monica-smiley-06b02639/
Tarbox Behavioural View Episode
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-behavioral-view-2-compassionate-care-with/id1569666510?i=1000523311432
Marshal Rosenberg Non-Violent Communication
https://www.amazon.ca/Nonviolent-Communication-Compassion-Marshall-Rosenberg/dp/1892005026

Friday Sep 16, 2022
Friday Sep 16, 2022
In this episode, Ben chats with Rocco Catrone, Ph.D., BCBA-D about his work in applying relational frame theory (RFT) to stigma towards individuals with disabilities. The conversation starts by looking at some of the societal phenomena that contribute to stigma followed by an RFT analysis of stigma and a discussion of a basic research experiment toward reducing perceptions of stigma.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Learning
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural
QABA: 1.5 DEI
Trigger Warning:
In this episode, we discuss several topics related to stigma that may be triggering to some. The following are approximate times when these topics are discussed:
17:40: Othering
25:50: Simulation Exercises
31:00: Inspiration Porn
37:00: Assisted Suicide/Abortion
47:20: Discussion Ends
General Information:
Dr. Rocco Catrone: https://www.thechicagoschool.edu/faculty-finder/byname/rocco_catrone
Show Notes:
Giant Steps of Ilinois: https://www.mygiantsteps.org
Stella Young - Ted Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K9Gg164Bsw
Love On The Spectrum: https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/81265493
Inclusion BC: https://inclusionbc.org
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 21: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-21-the-effects-of-empathy-training-on-racial-bias-and-other-research-from-dr-victoria-suarez-phd-bcba-d
Episode 26: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d
Episode 28: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-28-including-autistic-people-in-every-aspect-of-autism-research-with-dr-m-ariel-cascio-phd
Episode 35: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-35-staff-training-and-supervision-with-dr-dennis-reid-phd-bcba-d
Episode 38: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-38-what-we-can-do-about-stigma-and-racism-using-behaviour-science-with-dr-marija-colic-phd-bcba-d
Articles Referenced:
Catrone, R.G., & Koch, D.S. (2021). A behavioral approach to increasing perceptions of capability toward people with disabilities. Behavior and Social Issues, 30, 39–57. https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-021-00059-x
Čolić, M. (2021). Clarification of stigma concepts in research with families of individuals with neurodevelopmental disabilities. International Journal of Developmental Disabilities. https://doi.org/10.1080/20473869.2021.1989978
Dixon, M.R., Rehfeldt, R.A., Zlomke, K.R., et al. (2006). Exploring the development and dismantling of equivalence classes involving terrorist stimuli. Psychological Record, 56, 83–103. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF03395539
McGill, P., Bradshaw, J., Smyth, G., Hurman, M. & Roy, A. (2020). "Capable environments", Tizard Learning Disability Review, 25(3), 109–116. https://doi.org/10.1108/TLDR-05-2020-0007

Friday Sep 24, 2021
Friday Sep 24, 2021
In this episode, Ben connects with Dr. Victoria Suarez on some of her recent publications in the areas of ACT, RFT, and Collaboration.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 DEI
Show Notes:
Bowman, K. S., Suarez, V. D. & Weiss, M. J. (2021). Standards for interprofessional collaboration in the treatment of individuals with autism. Behavior Analysis in Practice. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00560-0
Suarez, V.D., Najdowski, A.C., Persicke, A. et al. A Laboratory Evaluation of the Effects of Empathy Training on Racial Bias. Psychol Rec (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40732-024-00606-z
Suarez, V. D., Moon, E. I. & Najdowski, A. C. (2021). Systematic review of acceptance and commitment training components in the behavioral intervention of individuals with autism and developmental disorders. Behavior Analysis in Practice. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00567-7
Pepperdine University: https://onlinegrad.pepperdine.edu/psychology/leadership-and-faculty/victoria-castillo

Wednesday Sep 15, 2021
Episode 20: Consulting in Group Homes using ACT with Monica Peters, M.ADS., BCBA
Wednesday Sep 15, 2021
Wednesday Sep 15, 2021
In this episode, we head to Halifax, Nova Scotia to chat with Monica Peters about her work in group home settings for adults with intellectual disabilities. Monica shares how she uses Acceptance and Commitment Training to increase buy-in and collaboration with group home staff.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Learning
IBAO: 1.5 Learning
QABA: 1.5 General
Show Notes:
Brock University: https://brocku.ca/social-sciences/applied-disability-studies/graduate-programs
Myra-Jade Lui: https://www.linkedin.com/in/myra-jade-lui-640bb3197/?originalSubdomain=ca
ACT Made Simple: https://www.amazon.ca/ACT-Made-Simple-Easy-Read/dp/1572247053
Liberated Mind: https://www.amazon.ca/Liberated-Mind-Pivot-Toward-Matters/dp/0735214018/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=liberated+mind&qid=1621380274&s=books&sr=1-1
Tina Long: https://www.crowdcast.io/tinalong; https://www.crowdcast.io/nvinstruction
Kevin Polk: http://www.drkevinpolk.com
Phil Tenalgia: https://www.philtenaglia.com
Kevin and Phil’s Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/matrixtalk
Monica’s Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/monica-peters
Monica and Tina’s Crowdcast: https://www.crowdcast.io/behaviortalk
Fruit to Root Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/act-root-to-fruit/id1523294942
Behavioral Observations ACT Podcasts: https://behavioralobservations.com/tag/act
PBS Matters Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pbs-matters/id1475101376
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-4-solutions-for-sleep-with-hilary-mcclinton-bcba-and-nicole-shallow-bcba
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-8-artificial-intelligence-and-behaviour-analysis-with-marc-lanovaz-phd-bcba-d
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-9-behaviour-analysis-in-senegal-with-adair-cardon-ms-bcba