The Behaviour Speak Podcast
Episodes

Saturday Mar 18, 2023
Saturday Mar 18, 2023
In Episode 75, Ben has the great honour of chatting with Dr. Celeste Malone, President of the National Association School Psychologists (NASP). This conversation dives into Dr. Malone's research in promoting equity and inclusion for racial and ethnic minoritized youth, cultural load in standardized assessments, the parallels between school psychology and behaviour analysis, creating safe professional spaces for Black school psychologists and more.
Contact:
Dr. Celeste Malone
https://profiles.howard.edu/celeste-malone
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
Links:
Harlem Renaissance
https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/harlem-renaissance
Harlem Hospital
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Hospital_Center
Abyssinian Baptist Church
https://abyssinian.org
The Schomburg Center For Research in Black Culture
https://www.nypl.org/locations/schomburg
Adam Clayton Powell Jr. Boulevard
https://untappedcities.com/2015/11/30/history-of-nyc-streets-adam-clayton-powell-jr-boulevard-seventh-avenue-in-harlem
National Association for School Psychologists
https://www.nasponline.org
Dr. Deborah Peek Crocket
https://www.nasponline.org/membership-and-community/nasp-awards-scholarships-and-grants/past-award-recipients/2021-award-recipients/nasp-2021-lifetime-achievement-award-winner-nasp-2021-general-session-remarks
School Psyc Sistahs
https://www.facebook.com/groups/schoolpsychsistahs
Black School Psychs International
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BlackSchoolPsychs
Bowie State University School Psychology
https://bowiestate.edu/academics/colleges/college-of-education/departments/counseling/frequently-asked-questions/school-psychology.php
Howard University School Psychology
https://gs.howard.edu/school-psychology-phd
Dr. Scott Graves
https://ehe.osu.edu/educational-studies/directory?id=graves.388
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-67-humilty-compassion-and-reflection-with-dr-nasiah-cirincione-ulezi-and-drjonathan-tarbox
Elizabeth Hughes-Fong
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-53-cultural-competence-in-behaviour-analysis-how-far-have-we-come-with-dr-elizabeth-hughes-fong
Research Referenced:
Malone, C. M., Wycoff, K., & Turner, E. A. (2022). Applying a MTSS framework to address racism and promote mental health for racial/ethnic minoritized youth. Psychology in the Schools, 59, 2438– 2452. https://doi.org/10.1002/pits.22606
Council of National Psychological Associations for the Advancement of Ethnic Minority Interests. (2016). Testing and assessment with persons & communities of color. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association. Retrieved from https://www.apa.org/pi/oema
Malone, CM, Ishmail, KZ. (2020). A snapshot of multicultural training in school psychology. Psychology in the Schools, 57, 1022-1039. https://doi.org/10.1002/pits.22392
McCubbin, L. D., Alex, R. M., Bergkamp, J., Malone, C. M., Wang, C. D. C., & Reynolds, A. L. (2023). Returning the colonizers gaze: Critiquing Whiteness in our training programs. Training and Education in Professional Psychology, 17(1), 14–21. https://doi.org/10.1037/tep0000436

Friday Feb 24, 2023
Friday Feb 24, 2023
In Episode 70, Ben chats with Dr. Casey Dupart. Casey is a school psychologist, trained K-12 administrator, behaviour analyst, and, certified clinical trauma professional. They dive into topics like equity, staff burnout, trauma-informed care, psychological safety, generational differences in the workplace, and more all from a systems perspective.
Check out Casey's upcoming training entitled: Incorporating Cultural Responsiveness Within Schools
https://mhttcnetwork.org/centers/mountain-plains-mhttc/event/incorporating-cultural-responsiveness-within-schools
Contact:
cdupart@embracingresilience.org
https://www.embracingresilience.org
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Trauma-Informed Care
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Grant Bruno: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/
Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Links:
Indian Residential School Hotline
https://www.irsss.ca
Story About Recent Grave Uncoverings
https://globalnews.ca/news/9501204/former-alberni-indian-residential-school-children-deaths-tseshaht-first-nation
Port Alberni Residential School Website
https://thechildrenremembered.ca/school-histories/alberni
SHARP Survey
https://www.bach-harrison.com/utahsharpwebtool/Default.aspx
HRx DEI Consulting
https://hrx.tech
Len Pierre Consulting
https://www.lenpierreconsulting.com
Prolonged Grief Disorder
https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/prolonged-grief-disorder
Tayo Rockson
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/as-told-by-nomads/id910739730

Friday Feb 17, 2023
Friday Feb 17, 2023
In Episode 69, Ben chats with Denise Ross-Page, Ph.D., BCBA-D, Margo Uwayo, Ph.D., BCBA, Mya Hernandez, Ph.D., BCBA-D, and Amoy Kito-Hugh, Ph.D., BCBA. They take a deep dive into how educators can provide culturally responsive instruction, the barriers for marginalized children, literacy, and so much more!
Call For Papers: Literacy and Social Justice: https://www.springer.com/journal/42822/updates/23543348
Contact:
Denise Ross
rossde@uwm.edu
Mya Hernandez
mhernandez@lakemichigancollege.edu
Amoy Kito-Hugh
drhughpennie@gmail.co
https://infinitybehavior.com/about-us
Margo Uwayo
uwayomutete@gmail.com
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 Ethics
Articles Referenced:
Hugh-Pennie, A. K., Hernandez, M., Uwayo, M., Johnson, G., & Ross, D. (2021). Culturally Relevant Pedagogy and Applied Behavior Analysis: Addressing Educational Disparities in PK-12 Schools. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 15(4), 1161–1169. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00655-8
Ladson-Billings, G. (1995). Toward a Theory of Culturally Relevant Pedagogy. American Educational Research Journal, 32(3), 465–491. https://doi.org/10.3102/00028312032003465
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Grant Bruno https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/
Nicole Hollins https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins/
May Beaubrun https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-62-addressing-racial-bias-in-education-with-may-beaubrun-med-bcba-lba/
Links:
St Mary’s Residential School - Kenora Ontario
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/st-marys-residential-school-1.6716724#:~:text=the%20release%20said.-,St.,died%20while%20attending%20the%20school
Institute For Urban Education at The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
https://uwm.edu/education/institute-urban-edu/
KABAS
https://www.kalamazooschool.org/about-us
Scientific Framework For Compassion and Social Justice
https://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Framework-Compassion-Social-Justice/dp/0367676184
Interview on Shades of ABA
https://anchor.fm/shadesofaba/episodes/Run-Me-My-Money-Income-Inequality-e16s4bh/a-a6favt2
Curtis Jones
https://uwm.edu/officeofresearch/people/jones-curtis
Linda Darling-Hammond
https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/ldh

Friday Jan 06, 2023
Episode 63: Equity and Systems Change With Dr. Noor Syed, Ph.D., BCBA-D
Friday Jan 06, 2023
Friday Jan 06, 2023
In Episode 63, Ben chats with Noor Syed, Ph.D., BCBA-D. Dr. Syed discusses her work developing sustainable systems locally with a fantastic ABA program at SUNY Empire State College where she has applied concepts from universal design and positive behaviour interventions and supports globally through the Anderson Centre disseminating behaviour analysis worldwide.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
Contact Dr. Syed:
Noor.Syed@esc.edu
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 9 - Adair Cardon: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-9-behaviour-analysis-in-senegal-with-adair-cardon-ms-bcba
Episode 49 - Dr. Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Episode 56: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-56-supporting-autistic-children-in-low-resource-settings-with-james-lee-phd-bcba-d
Web Links:
The Global Autism Project: https://skillcorps.globalautismproject.org
Anderson International: https://www.andersoncenterforautism.org/international
SUNY Empire State College ABA Program: https://www.esc.edu/graduate-studies/graduate-degrees/education-programs/ms-applied-behavior-analysis/
Len Pierre Consulting: https://www.lenpierreconsulting.com
Articles Referenced:
Hilton, J., Syed, N., Weiss, M.J. et al. Initiatives to Address Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Within a Higher Education ABA Department. Behav. Soc. Iss. 30, 58–81 (2021). https://doi.org/10.1007/s42822-021-00082-y

Thursday Dec 29, 2022
Episode 62: Addressing Racial Bias in Education with May Beaubrun, M.Ed., BCBA, LBA
Thursday Dec 29, 2022
Thursday Dec 29, 2022
In Episode 62, Ben chats with May Beaubrun on the topic of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the education system. May discusses the history of education in America going back over 400 years and how many of these systems are still active today. She tells us about how to achieve cultural responsivity in schools and takes a deep dive into disproportionality.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 Ethics
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 49 - Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Web Links:
eCornell DEI Course: https://ecornell.cornell.edu/certificates/leadership-and-strategic-management/diversity-equity-and-inclusion
New Heart New Life by Chriseline Beaubrun: https://www.amazon.ca/New-Heart-Life-Chriseline-Beaubrun/dp/1640797173
Culturally Responsive Tiered Fidelity Inventory: https://www.pbis.org/resource/integrated-tiered-fidelity-inventory-companion-guide
Questions To Ask When Developing Culturally Responsive Curricula: https://www.amle.org/12-questions-to-ask-when-designing-culturally-and-historically-responsive-curriculum
Articles Referenced:
Sylvain, M.M., Knochel, A.E., Gingles, D. et al. ABA While Black: The Impact of Racism and Performative Allyship on Black Behaviorists in the Workplace and on Social Media. Behavior Analysis Practice, 15, 1126–1133 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-022-00694-9

Friday Oct 07, 2022
Friday Oct 07, 2022
In Episode 49 Ben talks with Nicole Hollins, Ph.D., BCBA-D, about her work towards equitable multi-tiered positive behavioural interventions and supports in school settings. We also dive into her doctoral dissertation, which focused on improving the effectiveness of online instructional procedures. In the last quarter of the episode, we pivot to a discussion of her excellent article comparing client mistreatment to police brutality.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
General Information:
Dr. Nicole Hollins:
https://www.edbeeconsultations.com
https://lifespan.ku.edu/people/nicole-hollins
Show Notes:
First Voices: https://www.firstvoices.com
First Voices App: https://www.firstvoices.com/content/apps
Juniper Gardens: https://juniper.ku.edu/juniper-home
ABA Inside Track Cody Morris Interview: https://www.abainsidetrack.com/home/2021/7/28/episode-174-police-brutality
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 14: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-14-do-we-really-need-to-sit-on-santa-s-lap-body-autonomy-consent-sex-toys-and-lube-with-landa-fox-ma-bcba-cshe
Episode 26: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d
Articles Referenced:
Dr. Hollins’ Thesis: https://www.proquest.com/openview/096d1c1e63a0509417f6a4bd49dfc79c/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y
Morris, C., Hollins, N.A. (2021). On the uncanny similarities between police brutality and client mistreatment. Behavior Analysis in Practice. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00576-6
Stevenson, N.A., VanLone, J. & Barber, B.R. (2020). A commentary on the misalignment of teacher education and the need for classroom behavior management skills. Education and Treatment of Children, 43, 393–404. https://doi.org/10.1007/s43494-020-00031-1