The Behaviour Speak Podcast
Episodes

Friday Nov 25, 2022
Friday Nov 25, 2022
In this episode, Ben chats with Dr. James Lee about his research providing parent-mediated interventions in rural and low-resource settings. Much of his work has involved families in Mongolia and Korea. Dr. Lee also shares his work developing a tool to assess our work with people from different cultures called the Cultural Adaptation Checklist.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 3: Maria Sample: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-3-parent-coaching-with-esdm-and-the-balance-program-with-maria-sample-ma-bcba
Episode 7: Thea Brian: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-7-peer-mediated-interventions-with-thea-brain-ma-phd-candidate-bcba
Episode 9: Addie Cardon: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-9-behaviour-analysis-in-senegal-with-adair-cardon-ms-bcba
Episode 16: Amy Tanner: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-16-pediatric-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-amy-tanner-phd-bcba-d
Episode 30: Rocio Rosales: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-30-a-conversation-with-dr-rocio-rosales-phd-bcba-d
Episodes 43 & 44 - Joe Lucyshyn:
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2
Episode 49: Nicole Hollins: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-49-free-appropriate-public-education-for-all-students-the-role-of-behavior-analysts-in-public-schools-with-dr-nicole-hollins
Web Links:
Dr. Hedda Meadan’s Family Lab: https://familylab.education.illinois.edu
Autism Association of Mongolia: https://www.facebook.com/Autism.Association.Mongolia
Articles Referenced:
Lee, J.D., Meadan, H. (2021). Parent-Mediated Interventions for Children with ASD in Low-Resource Settings: a Scoping Review. Review Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 8, 285–298. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40489-020-00218-7
Lee, J.D., Meadan, H. (2021). Children with Autism Spectrum Disorders in Low-Resource Settings: Reported Experiences and Needs of Parents in Mongolia. Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 51, 3586–3599. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10803-020-04818-4
Lee, J.D., Meadan, H., & Oyunbaatar, E. (2022). Parent peer coaching program: A cascading intervention for parents of children with autism in Mongolia. Autism, 26(8), 1999–2014. https://doi.org/10.1177/13623613211070636
Terol, A.K., Lee, J.D., Martin, M.R., & Meadan, H. (2022). Online training for parents of children with developmental disabilities in a low-resource community: A pilot feasibility study. Journal of Policy and Practice in Intellectual Disabilities, 1–11. https://doi.org/10.1111/jppi.12417
Lee, J.D., Meadan, H., Oyunbaatar, E., & Amar, A. (2022). Strategies for capacity building in a low-resource setting: Stakeholders’ voices. Autism, 0(0). https://doi.org/10.1177/13623613221127077

Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
Tuesday Nov 15, 2022
In this episode, I chat with the late Dr. Lyz Hughes-Fong about all things cultural (competence, humility, sensitivity, awareness, and understanding). We discuss diversity trends in behavior analysis and suggestions for moving forward.
It is with extreme sadness and sorrow that we share the passing of our very dear friend and colleague, Dr. Elizabeth “Lyz” Hughes Fong on February 29, 2024. Dr. Hughes Fong’s pivotal work in cultural competency and humility sparked a movement that has forever shaped the field of behavior analysis toward increased diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Lyz was an active member of St. John Chrysostom Church and The Springhaven Club in Wallingford.
Lyz was a shining light. Her work and its impact will forever be part of our history and growth. But most importantly, her kind, thoughtful, selfless, and warm spirit will forever be part of our hearts. She had a way of fostering genuine human connection; she brought people together and forged long-lasting friendships that will endure in her absence.
Lyz is survived by a husband, parents, sister, and a daughter. She was deeply dedicated to her child's happiness, education, and well-being. In lieu of flowers, donations to support the higher education of Dr. Fong's daughter are appreciated.
On behalf of her husband and family, thank you! Please consider donating to the Go Fund Me link below.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/dr-elizabeth-hughes-fong
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 1.5 DEI
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 37: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate
Episode 42: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-a-deep-dive-into-the-inequities-professorship-and-authorship-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-anita-li-phd-bcba-d
Episode 43: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1
Other Podcast Episodes Referenced:
https://www.abainsidetrack.com/get-ceus/episode-104-culturally-competent-assessment
Articles Referenced:
Fong, E. H., & Tanaka, S. (2013). Multicultural alliance of behavior analysis standards for cultural competence in behavior analysis. International Journal of Behavioral Consultation and Therapy, 8(2), 17–19. https://doi.org/10.1037/h0100970
Fong, E. H., Catagnus, R. M., Brodhead, M. T., et al. (2016). Developing the cultural awareness skills of behavior analysts. Behavior Analysis Practice, 9, 84–94. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-016-0111-6
Fong, E. H., Ficklin, S., & Lee, H. Y. (2017). Increasing cultural understanding and diversity in applied behavior analysis. Behavior Analysis: Research and Practice, 17(2), 103–113.

Friday Aug 05, 2022
Friday Aug 05, 2022
In this episode, Ben chats with Anita Li, Ph.D., BCBA-D, about her research on the status of women in behaviour analysis in terms of pay equity, publishing, and more. This leads to a conversation about her article on solidarity among non-Black people of colour in promoting racial equity.
Correction: In the last 30 minutes of this episode Ben mentions recording this episode in January 2020. The episode was actually recorded January 2022.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Ethics/Cultural
QABA: 2.0 Ethics/DEI
Show Notes:
Shades of ABA - Anita Li's Interview: https://anchor.fm/shadesofaba/episodes/Divided-We-Fall-e18i241
Beautiful Humans Podcast: https://anchor.fm/beautiful-humans
Stamped From The Beginning by Ibram X. Kendi: https://www.amazon.ca/Stamped-Beginning-Definitive-History-National/dp/1568585985/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2AF5SLRBX07CE&keywords=stamped+from+the+beginning&qid=1659134275&s=books&sprefix=stamped+from+%2Cstripbooks%2C183&sr=1-1
How To Be Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi: https://www.amazon.ca/How-Be-Antiracist-Ibram-Kendi/dp/0525509283/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2W47EPRWRCXVW&keywords=how+to+be+an+antiracist&qid=1659134318&s=books&sprefix=how+to+be+%2Cstripbooks%2C171&sr=1-1
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 26: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d
Episode 27: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-27-translational-research-digeorge-syndrome-and-a-little-dash-of-metacontingencies-with-valdeep-saini-phd-bcba-d
Articles Referenced:
Ayllon, T., & Michael, J. (1959). The psychiatric nurse as a behavioral engineer. Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior, 2(4), 323–334. https://doi.org/10.1901/jeab.1959.2-323
Li, A., Curiel, H., Pritchard, J., & Poling, A. (2018). Participation of women in behavior analysis research: Some recent and relevant data. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 11(2), 160–164. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-018-0211-6
Li, A., Gravina, N., Pritchard, J. K., & Poling, A. (2019). The gender pay gap for behavior analysis faculty. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 12(4), 743–746. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-019-00347-4
Li, A. (2021). Solidarity: The role of non-black people of color in promoting racial equity. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 14, 549–553. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-020-00498-9
Rotta, K., Li, A., Curiel, E. S. L. et al. (2022). Women in behavior analysis: A review of the literature. Behavior Analysis in Practice, 15, 592–607. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00642-z

Thursday Jun 30, 2022
Thursday Jun 30, 2022
In this episode Ben chats with Marija Čolić, Ph.D., BCBA, about her research in Serbia and the US on stigma for Autistic folks and other disabilities. They then discuss her recent paper on Black caregivers perspectives on racism in autism services.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 2.0 Ethics
IBAO: 2.0 Cultural/Ethics
QABA: 2.0 DEI/Ethics
General Information:
Dr. Marija Čolić: https://coe.hawaii.edu/sped/directory/colic
Show Notes:
Anderson Center for Autism International Program: https://www.andersoncenterforautism.org/international
The Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Episode 9: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-9-behaviour-analysis-in-senegal-with-adair-cardon-ms-bcba
Episode 21: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-21-the-effects-of-empathy-training-on-racial-bias-and-other-research-from-dr-victoria-suarez-phd-bcba-d
Episode 26: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d
Articles Referenced:
Čolić, M., Araiba, S., Lovelace, T. S., et al. (2021). Black caregivers’ perspectives on racism in ASD services: Toward culturally responsive ABA practice. Behavior Analysis in Practice. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-021-00577-5
Čolić, M. (2021). Clarification of stigma concepts in research with families of individuals with neurodevelopmental disabilities. International Journal of Developmental Disabilities. https://doi.org/10.1080/20473869.2021.1989978
Čolić, M., Dababnah, S., & Milačić-Vidojević, I. (2021). A model of internalized stigma in parents of individuals with disabilities. International Journal of Developmental Disabilities. DOI: 10.1080/20473869.2021.1924032
Čolić, M., & Milačić-Vidojević, I. (2021). Perceived stigma among Serbian parents of children with autism spectrum disorder and children with physical disabilities: Validation of a new instrument. Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 51, 501–513. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10803-020-04559-4
Čolić, M. & Milačić-Vidojević, I. (2020). Do Serbian parents of children with autism spectrum disorder experience a greater degree of stigma than parents of children with physical disabilities. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marija-Colic/publication/345716613_Do_Serbian_parents_of_children_with_autism_spectrum_disorder_experience_a_greater_degree_of_stigma_than_parents_of_children_with_physical_disabilities/links/5faba2ba299bf18c5b64cb38/Do-Serbian-parents-of-children-with-autism-spectrum-disorder-experience-a-greater-degree-of-stigma-than-parents-of-children-with-physical-disabilities.pdf
Čolić, M., Dababnah, S., Garbarino, N., & Betz, G. (2022). Parental experiences raising children with autism spectrum disorder in Eastern Europe: A scoping review. International Journal of Developmental Disabilities, 68(1), 1–13. https://doi.org/10.1080/20473869.2019.1688931
Green, S. E. (2003). “What do you mean ‘what's wrong with her?’”: Stigma and the lives of families of children with disabilities. Social Science & Medicine, 57(8), 1361–1374.https://doi.org/10.1016/S0277-9536(02)00511-7
Weinstein, J. H., Wilson, K. G., Drake, C. E., et al. (2008). A relational frame theory contribution to social categorization. Behavior and Social Issues, 17, 40–65. https://doi.org/10.5210/bsi.v17i1.406
Podcasts to Check Out:
Beautiful Humans: https://anchor.fm/beautiful-humans
Shades of ABA: https://anchor.fm/shadesofaba

Monday Jan 11, 2021
Monday Jan 11, 2021
In our first episode I speak with Danielle Reid, MSc., BCBA, who shares her personal story of coming to Canada from Trinidad & Tobago in terms of her experiences with racism in both the community at large and within the field of behaviour analysis.
Continuing Education Units (CEUs): https://cbiconsultants.com/shop
BACB: 1.5 Ethics
IBAO: 1.5 Ethics/Cultural
QABA: 1.5 Ethics
Podcast Website:
https://www.behaviourspeak.com
Resources referred to in this episode:
https://www.bacb.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/BACB-Compliance-Code-english_190318.pdf
http://www.internationaltrainingcenterabaafrica.com/BACB_Conduct_Guidelines.pdf
Douglas College DABA program:
https://www.douglascollege.ca/program/atdaba