Behavior Analysis

In Episode 167, Ben chats with Basim Hudeen, a Black Muslim Board-Certified Behaviour Analyst and doctoral student at the Chicago School for Professional Psychology.  After a brief stint as a linebacker with the NFL's New York Giants,  Basim combined his love for sports and his passion for supporting kids and adults with behavioral challenges back to his hometown of Elizabeth, New Jersey, and opened Unlimited ABA Sports where he utilizes behavioral science in the context of athletics to improve lives.  This conversation explores the intersection of Black identity and Islam, highlighting the historical context of the Black church, the significance of name changes upon conversion to Islam, and the importance of Ramadan, the transformative experience of Hajj, and the lessons of patience and gratitude learned through these practices. and the unique experiences of being Black and Muslim in America.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
 
Contact:
https://www.unlimitedabasports.com/
Links:
Team ABA 
https://teamaballc.com/
Canucks Autism Network
https://canucksautism.ca/
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Black Liberation Psychology 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-98-black-liberation-psychology-a-conversation-with-dr-evan-auguste/
Culturally Affirming Special Education in Panamanian and Muslim Culture
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-108-culturally-affirming-special-education-in-panamanian-and-muslim-culture-with-dr-naima-bhana-lopez/
Culturally Safe Harm Reduction 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-132-culturally-safe-harm-reduction-with-rachelle-gladue-pisimoyapiy-ka-nipawit/
 
 

In Episode 166,  Ben chats with Dr. Lauryn Toby,  Erica Ranade, and Dr Kristyn Peterson. 
Trigger Warning:
This episode discusses sensitive topics, including sexual harassment in conference, workplace, and academic settings. The content may be distressing to some listeners. If you find these topics triggering, please take care while listening or consider skipping this episode. Remember, if you or someone you know is affected by sexual harassment, support and resources are available.
In Canada you can call the Sexual Violence Helpline:
1 888-933 9007
https://sexualviolencehelpline.ca/getting-help/sexual-violence-helpline/
In the USA you can call The National Sexual Assualt Telephone Hotline
1 800 656 HOPE  (4674)
The original purpose of "Me Too" as used by Tarana Burke in 2006 was to empower women through empathy, especially young and vulnerable women. In October 2017, American actress, Alyssa Milano encouraged using the phrase as a hashtag to help reveal the extent of problems with sexual harassment and assault by showing how many people have experienced these events themselves. It therefore encourages women to speak up about their abuses, knowing that they are not alone. The movement spread beyond Hollywood calling out perpetrators in the music industry, sciences, academia, politics and even students in K-12 schools. So-called "whisper networks" have also formed where private lists of "people to avoid "are shared unofficially in nearly every major institution or industry where sexual harassment is common due to power imbalances, including government, media, news, and academia. These lists have the stated purpose of warning other workers in the industry and are shared from person to person, on forums, in private social media groups, and via spreadsheets. 
(From: Wikipedia contributors. (2024, June 27). MeToo movement. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 22:41, June 28, 2024, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MeToo_movement&oldid=1231354954)
One such list has been rumored to exist in the field of applied behavior analysis warning conference attendees and employees of people to avoid or risk exposure to predatory behavior. 
In this episode, we dig into the experiences of behavior analysts,  the availability and usefulness of reporting procedures, and behaviors we can engage in to protect others from perpetrators.   
 
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.0 LearningIBAO: 1.0 LearningQABA: 1.0 General
Contact:
Dr. Lauryn Toby and Eric Ranade
https://www.thepsychobabblebcbas.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thepsychobabblebcbas/
Pre-order Erica and Lauryn’s Book
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1032844183?ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VRZNM7CAV3PTQE9QS8GX&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VRZNM7CAV3PTQE9QS8GX&social_share=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_VRZNM7CAV3PTQE9QS8GX
Dr. Kristyn Peterson
https://linktr.ee/moralismachina
https://www.instagram.com/aba_in_the_wild/
Links: 
The #MeToo Movement
https://metoomvmt.org/
LGBTQIAS Special Interest Group
https://www.instagram.com/lgbtqabaisig/
The International Association for Behavior Analysis
Position on Sexual Harassment
        https://www.abainternational.org/about-us/policies-and-positions/sexual-harassment,-2019.aspx
Harassment Reporting Procedure
        https://www.abainternational.org/about-us/policies-and-positions/harassment-policy/report-harassment-incident.aspx
Behavior Analyst Demographics
https://www.bacb.com/bacb-certificant-data/
Articles Referenced
Costa, A. L., & Kallick, B. (1993). Through the Lens of a Critical Friend. Educational Leadership, 51, 49-51.
Baires, N.A., Koch, D.S. The Future Is Female (and Behavior Analysis): A Behavioral Account of Sexism and How Behavior Analysis Is Simultaneously Part of the Problem and Solution. Behav Analysis Practice 13, 253–262 (2020). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-019-00394-x
Stenhouse, L. (1975). An introduction to curriculum research and development. London: Heinemann.
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-26-smashing-the-patriarchy-a-conversation-about-sexism-and-privilege-in-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-natalia-baires-phd-bcba-d/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

We're excited to share Episode 7 of our Mini-Episode Series:  The Road to Black Con 2024 featuring conversations with attendees from last year's Black Applied Behavior Analysts conference!  Episode 7 features conversations with Breanna Kelly, Erykah McClendon, LaKeshia Wells, Akricia Joseph, and Kemy Williams!
IN PERSON TICKET SALES FOR BLACK CON 2024 END ON JUNE 28TH!
To register for Black Con go to https://babainfo.org/conference/

On this Juneteenth 2024 we're excited to share Episode 6 of our Mini-Episode Series:  The Road to Black Con 2024 featuring conversations with attendees from last year's Black Applied Behavior Analysts conference!  Episode 6 features four separate conversations with BABA 2023 attendees:  Dr. Jesca Apamo-Gannon, Ashley Carrigan, Danni Reid, and Jadine Wilson! 
To register for Black Con go to https://babainfo.org/conference/

We're excited to share Episode 4 of our Mini-Episode Series:  The Road to Black Con 2024 featuring conversations with attendees from last year's conference!  Episode 4 features two conversations. The first is with Mia, a registered behavior technician with The Indiana Institute for Behavior Analysis whom I interviewed on the deck of the paddle boat during the 90s Boat Cruise.  The second is a conversation with Darnell and Mohammed, registered behavior technicians from Beltway ABA inside the main conference hall.  
Check out Episode 153 for a conversation with BABA President, Denisha Gingles and Vice President, Cammie Williams!
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-153-black-con-2024-baba-s-triumphant-return/
To register for Black Con go to https://babainfo.org/conference/

In Episode 158,  Ben chats with Gerron Cooper, a business analyst at IREX.ai, a company that develops predictive AI analytics from surveillance cameras in the human trafficking space.  
Gerron has a diverse academic background and a passion for exploring the intersection of human behavior, artificial intelligence, and management. Gerron holds a master's degree in applied behavior analysis from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology and a bachelor's degree in psychology from Averett University. Gerron is currently pursuing an MBA from Hult International Business School, further enriching their skill set with a comprehensive understanding of strategic management, data-driven decision-making, and organizational leadership. Gerron's goal is to bridge the gap between cutting-edge technology and human-centric management practices, creating transformative solutions in the business world.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 LearningIBAO: 1.5 CulturalQABA: 1.5 DEI
Contact:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerroncooperbcba/
https://irex.ai/
 
Links:
DMV Association of Black Behavior Analysts (DMV ABBA)
https://www.dmvabba.org/
Black Men in Behavior Analysis
https://bmbanetwork.org/
Black Applied Behavior Analysts 
https://babainfo.org/
Missouri Black Behavior Analysis Community (MOBBAC)
https://www.mobbac.org/
TAP: The ABA Pathfinders
https://www.mobbac.org/tap-the-aba-pathfinders
Black Women in Behavior Analysis (BWIBAAD)
https://bwibaad.org/
ABA Verzus Block Party
https://www.linkedin.com/company/abaverzus-block-party/
 
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Black Men in Behavior Analysis with Jeron Trotman
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode79-black-men-in-behavior-analysis-with-jeron-trotman/
The Missouri Black Behavior Analysis Community with Kelly Baird
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-86-the-missouri-black-behavior-analysis-community-mobbac-with-kelly-baird-ma-bcba-cctsi/
Behaviour Analysis in Ghana and Nigeria with Josephine Akure and Joy Oviojie
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-91-behaviour-analysis-in-ghana-and-nigeria-with-josephine-akure-and-joy-oviojie/
Culturally Responsive Screening Tools for Autism and/or Intellectual Disabilities in Nigeria with Dr. Eziafakaku Nwokolo
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-120-culturally-responsive-screening-tools-for-autism-andor-intellectual-disabilities-in-nigeria-with-dr-eziafakaku-nwokolo/
Artificial Intelligence and Behaviour Analysis with Dr. Marc Lanovaz
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-8-artificial-intelligence-and-behaviour-analysis-with-marc-lanovaz-phd-bcba-d/
Black Liberation Psychology with Dr. Evan Auguste
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-98-black-liberation-psychology-a-conversation-with-dr-evan-auguste/
 
 

We're excited to share Episode 3 of our Mini-Episode Series:  The Road to Black Con 2024 featuring conversations with attendees from last year's conference!  Episode 3 is a chat with Anika Costa live on the Detroit River on the 90s Boat Cruise!
Check out Episode 153 for a conversation with BABA President, Denisha Gingles and Vice President, Cammie Williams!
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-153-black-con-2024-baba-s-triumphant-return/
To register for Black Con go to https://babainfo.org/conference/
Check out the other episodes in this series!
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-154-the-road-to-black-con-2024-mini-episode-1-ashley-marquita/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-156-the-road-to-black-con-2024-mini-episode-2-gabriell-and-guirlene/
Links:
Evolving ABA Richard Spates and Nasiah
https://abatechnologies.com/operant-innovations-podcast/2022-08-31/evolving-aba-001-dr-richard-spates

We're excited to share Episode 2 of our Mini-Episode Series:  The Road to Black Con 2024 featuring conversations with attendees from last year's conference!  Episode 2 is a chat with Gabriell Abrams and Guirline Lews!
Check out Episode 153 for a conversation with BABA President, Denisha Gingles and Vice President, Cammie Williams!
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-153-black-con-2024-baba-s-triumphant-return/
To register for Black Con go to https://babainfo.org/conference/
 

We're excited to share Episode 1 of our Mini-Episode Series:  The Road to Black Con 2024 featuring conversations with attendees from last year's conference!  Episode 1 is a chat with two amazing behaviour analysts:  Ashley and Marquita
Check out Episode 153 for a conversation with BABA President, Denisha Gingles and Vice President, Cammie Williams!
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-153-black-con-2024-baba-s-triumphant-return/
To register for Black Con go to https://babainfo.org/conference/
 

Episode 153 features a conversation with the intervening President Denisha Gingles, and Vice-President Cammie Williams of the Black Applied Behavior Analysts, Inc. which paused operations in July 2023 following two unfortunate situations that occurred at our 2023 conference in Detroit: a physical and verbal attack, as well as homophobic statements made from one of their members to another.  Among other things, these incidents exposed how far BABA had drifted from its founding purpose: the uplift of the entire Black community in the behavior analytic space.  In this episode, Denisha and Cammie outline the history of BABA from its beginnings and their path toward transformative healing. As well they share exciting news about their upcoming mini-conference, BLACK CON!  
Stay tuned to the Behaviour Speak Podcast over the next few months as we share mini-episodes highlighting some of the positive experiences of attendees at the 2023 conference.   
 
Before you listen to this episode, listen to this one first!
Love, Sex, and Applied Behavior Analysis with Cammie Williams and the Executive Board of BABA
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lovesexaba/episodes/The-Exhale-BABA-e2j9ate
 
Links:
Black Applied Behavior Analysts Inc.
https://babainfo.org/
https://www.facebook.com/BABAInc19
https://www.instagram.com/blackappliedbehavioranalysts/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/black-applied-behavior-
analysts/
Black in Behavior Analysis FB Group (where it all started!)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/284272152061855
 
 
 

In Episode 149, Ben chats with Dr. Shahad Alsharif, a board-certified behaviour analyst and CABAS Master Teacher. Dr. Alsharif consults with organizations that offer applied behavior analysis therapy to develop their services and train their professionals inside and outside of Saudi Arabia.  She consults with government entities, such as the Ministry of Education and the Saudi Health Council on developing initiatives and regulatory guides for the rights of individuals with developmental disabilities and standards of practice.  
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
Contact:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahad-alsharif-phd-bcba-d-lba-ny-209a497b/
https://www.theseedsofknowledge.com/
https://www.instagram.com/theseedsofknowledge_
 
Links
ABA Saudi Arabia 
https://iba.abainternational.org/2023/10/03/aba-saudi-arabia-2/
Dar Al-Helkma University
https://www.dah.edu.sa/en/academics/hses/programs/Pages/Master-of-Science-in-Applied-Behavior-Analysis.aspx

In  Episode 148,  Ben chats with Deb Fernando, who is quite possibly the only Indigenous behaviour analyst in all of Australia.  Deb is a proud Bigambul, Gomeroi woman with strong connections to far northwest NSW within the Gamilaraay language nation. She has 30 years’ experience working with First Nations communities throughout Australia, including urban, rural, and remote locations.  
Deb started her career as a chef, then worked in government organisation troubleshooting major problems in servicing First Nations people in remote communities.
She then went on to work with the University of South Australia where her team of researchers received the Vice Chancellors award for excellence in engaging in communities. Moving from SA back to New South Wales she began working with the SAX institute as the Study manager to progress their First Nations child health research project in urban and rural children's health. Within a short time, they established the project in five major Aboriginal Medical services, which identified the gaps in services to First Nations children within these areas. One highlight was establishing ongoing specialized services such as hearing and speech therapy for First Nations families. At the age of 50 Deb embarked on my academic career completing my BA and Honors in psychological science at Southern Cross University, continuing her studies in 2020 she completed a Master's in Education in Applied Behavioural Analysis at Monash University. Whilst studying she started to work as a positive behavioural therapist practitioner with The Center for Positive Behavioural support where she held a position as a Behavioural support practitioner. Over the years Deb has been looking and searching for the most appropriate services for First Nations peoples to assist in closing the gap between First Nations people and Non-First Nations peoples.  Deb has a passion for applied behaviour analysis and therapies that take a holistic approach to addressing the needs of First Nations families. Due to the impacts of cultural loading, she received over her working career she ended her journey of working for others and started her own business “FeatherWay Road”. Here Deb collaborates with families to establish an environment where everyone feels included, supported, and empowered. Working with neurodiverse children, she embraces their unique strengths, their culture, and challenges to cultivate an inclusive and supportive learning environment.  ABA has been one of the many highlights of her academic career. I have seen and experienced the solid sustainable results this has on families and individuals. 
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 2.0 EthicsIBAO: 2.0 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 2.0 Ethics
Contact:
debfern54@hotmail.com
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced
Grant Bruno
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/
Louis Busch 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-11-the-treatment-of-life-threatening-pica-with-louis-busch-bst-abs-hc-med-bcba/
Jordyn Burleson 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-130-the-tonowanda-seneca-behavior-technician-with-jordyn-burleson-rbt/
Valerie Clack
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-117-the-lakota-bcba-with-valerie-clack-ma-bcbalba/
 

In Episode 147, Ben chats with Dr. Jaxcy Turietta.,  a Board Certified Behavior Analyst - Doctoral Level from the Chickasaw Nation based in New Mexico.  Dr. Turietta works at the University of New Mexico's Sandoval Medical Center where she provides behavioral support services to patients and staff.  The conversation starts with a discussion on diagnosing autism and systems of diagnosis. Dr. Turietta talks about her work with the Navajo Nation, autism acceptance in Native American communities, and culturally responsive care in Indigenous communities.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
Contact:
evaluate505@gmail.com
https://www.timetoevaluate.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-jaxcy-turrietta-44509b143/
Links:
Grant Bruno: The Gift of Being Different
https://aidecanada.ca/resources/learn/asd-id-core-knowledge/the-gift-of-being-different
Chickasaw Lifetime Scholarship Article
https://psychology.as.uky.edu/odom-awarded-lifetime-scholarship-chickasaw-nation
Chickasaw on Rosetta Stone
https://www.chickasaw.net/rosettastone
Chickasaw Language App
https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/chickasaw-language-basic/id448797486
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced
Grant Bruno
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/
Louis Busch 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-11-the-treatment-of-life-threatening-pica-with-louis-busch-bst-abs-hc-med-bcba/
Jordyn Burleson 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-130-the-tonowanda-seneca-behavior-technician-with-jordyn-burleson-rbt/
Valerie Clack
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-117-the-lakota-bcba-with-valerie-clack-ma-bcbalba/
Eziafakaku Nwokolo
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-120-culturally-responsive-screening-tools-for-autism-andor-intellectual-disabilities-in-nigeria-with-dr-eziafakaku-nwokolo/
Mark Standing Eagle Baez
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-111-the-sweetgrass-method-a-culturally-responsive-approach-among-american-indianalaska-native-peoples-with-dr-mark-standing-eagle-baez/
 
 
 

In Episode 146, Ben chats with Hilary Amado, an American behaviour analyst living with her psychoanalyst Brazillian husband in Brasil.  The conversation starts with a little brevity as Hilary shares some of the interesting conversations she and her husband have about caring for their children as behavior analysis and psychoanalysis philosophies collide.  As a founding professional advisory board member of the International Behavior Analysis Organization (IBAO), Hilary has a wealth of knowledge when it comes to providing behavior analytic services outside of  North America/Turtle Island and shares her experiences providing those services and the barriers behavior analysts face trying to provide services.  The last part of the conversation is focused on Hilary's work providing English instruction services using the principles of behavior analysis.  
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.0 EthicsIBAO: 1.0 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.0 Ethics
Contact:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-hilary-o-gorman-m-a-bcba-iba-lba-7b69aa162/
https://projetoaba.com.br/
https://www.facebook.com/projetoABAautismo/
Links:
https://www.theibao.com/
 

In Episode 145, Ben chats with Alia Yasir. Alia is a highly experienced and dedicated Board Certified Associate Behavior Analyst (BCaBA) and International Behavior Analyst with a career spanning over 17 years. She completed her coursework in Applied Behavior Analysis from the University of West Florida. Her expertise is further solidified by her completion of extensive training in Verbal Behavior (VB), Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC), assessment tools, and report generation.
Alia firmly believes in positive behavior support and the importance of providing compassionate care in direct therapy. Alia is one of the few internationally certified Behavior Analysts based in Pakistan, holding certifications from both the Behavior Analyst Certification Board (BACB) and the International Behavior Analyst Organization (IBAO). She is an approved content provider for both the IBT and IBA credentials, and she actively trains and supervises candidates while advocating for the growth of evidence-based methods in behavior therapy. Additionally, Alia has conducted numerous workshops and seminars to provide support and guidance to parents and professionals.
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.0 EthicsIBAO: 1.0 Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.0 Ethics
Contact:
https://bsentherapy.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alia-yasir-msc-bcaba-iba-617365148/
Links:
Autism Society of Pakistan
https://autismpak.com/
International Behavior Analysis Organization
https://www.theibao.com/
 
 

In Episode 144, I chat with the brilliant Dr. Pranali Hoyle, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst-Doctoral Level who studies the effects of mindfulness on parent-child interactions. We dig deep into the origins of mindfulness and meditation from Pranali's early days growing up in India where, as a practicing Hindu, she learned from Buddhist teachings on mindfulness to her current context in New Jersey studying the works of Jon Kabat-Zinn and Dr. Nirbhay Singh. So grab your bolster or blanket, put on your airpods and join us for a peaceful journey of learning!
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO: 1.5  Cultural/EthicsQABA: 1.5 Ethics
 
Contact:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranali-hoyle-ph-d-bcba-d-94795454/
https://neurodiversityofnortheast.com/
Links:
Wherever You Go There You Are - Jon Kabat-Zinn
https://www.amazon.ca/Wherever-You-There-Are-Mindfulness/dp/1401307787
Genetic Syndrome in ABA book
https://books.google.ca/books/about/Genetic_Syndromes_and_Applied_Behaviour.html?id=M9HWAgAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y
Behaviour Speak Podcast Episodes Referenced:
Nicole Neil Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-6-down-syndrome-and-behaviour-analysis-with-dr-nicole-neil-phd-bcba-d/
Rocio Rosales Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-30-a-conversation-with-dr-rocio-rosales-phd-bcba-d/
Denny Reid Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-35-staff-training-and-supervision-with-dr-dennis-reid-phd-bcba-d/
Joe Lucyshyn Episodes
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-42-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2/
Chevonne Sutter Episode
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-82-teaching-individuals-who-are-deafblind-with-chevonne-sutter-phd-bcba-d/
Mel Trueblood-Stimpson 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-116-being-romani-with-mel-trueblood-stimpson/