Behaviour Speak with Ben Reiman

In this powerful and deeply reflective conversation, Dr. Tibetha Kemble challenges us to rethink what we believe about colonization, reconciliation, and responsibility.
Together, we explore how settler colonialism isn’t just history—it’s an ongoing system that shapes institutions, relationships, and everyday life in ways many of us struggle to see.
This episode invites you to move beyond performative actions and into deeper reflection, asking one of the most important—and uncomfortable—questions:
👉 What are you willing to lose?
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/HCQ4DW87tmA
Contact Tibetha:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tibetha-kemble-stonechild-phd-37231841/
Links and Resources:
Len Pierre Consulting
https://www.lenpierreconsulting.com/
Native Land Indigenous Territories Map
https://native-land.ca/
Women and Children's Health Research Institute
https://www.wchri.org/our-impact/stories/wchri-welcomes-tibetha-kemble-stonechild-as-academic-lead-of-indigenous-womens-health-research/
Wâpanachakos Indigenous Health Program
https://www.ualberta.ca/en/medicine/programs/indigenous-health-program/index.html
Braiding Sweetgrass By Robin Wall Kimmerer
https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/books
 
 

In episode 273 of Behaviour Speak, we’re joined by Mikala Chee of the Diné (Navajo) Nation, Sanoe Rapozo, a Native Hawaiian,  and Abbey Woldt of the Ho-Chunk Nation—three Indigenous undergraduate scholars whose work spans nursing, psychology, and neuroscience. Together, they share their journeys into higher education, the challenges of navigating predominantly Western academic systems, and their collaboration on a community research team (CRT) mentored by Dr. Anna Fetter and focused on developing culturally grounded measures of stress and mental health for Indigenous college students. This conversation explores what happens when Indigenous students not only enter academia—but begin to reshape it.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/r4guaLEQhi0
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Connect with Mikala
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikala-chee-14b36b387/
Links: 
All Our Kin 
https://www.instagram.com/allourkincollective/
SPEx Lab at Fort Lewis College
https://faculty.fortlewis.edu/amborgella/SPExLab/
Dr. Melissa Teehee's Tohi Lab
https://www.tohilab.org/
Connect with Sanoe
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanoe-rapozo/
Links:
The Past before Us: Moʻokūʻauhau as Methodology
https://uhpress.hawaii.edu/title/the-past-before-us-mo%CA%BBoku%CA%BBauhau-as-methodology/
Native American Indigenous Student Alliance
https://duke.campusgroups.com/naisa/home/
Karsh STEM Fellowship
https://undergrad.duke.edu/intellectual-community/student-faculty-engagement-office/karsh-stem-program/karsh-stem-scholars/
Connect with Abbey
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbey-woldt-8b09a0350/
Links:
https://teachlearn.wisc.edu/first-nations-cultural-landscape-tour/
UW Madison Native American Center for Health Professions
https://nachp.med.wisc.edu/
The Society For Indian Psychologists:
https://www.nativepsychs.org/
Native-to-Native Mentorship Program in Psychology
https://www.nativepsychs.org/sip-mentorship-program
Related Episodes:
Mentorship as Medicine with Dr. Anna Kawennison Fetter
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/mentorship-as-medicine-with-anna-kawennison-fetter-phd-edm/
Cultural Responsiveness in ABA:  A Hawaiian Perspective with Dr. Naomi Tachera and Dr. Sara Sato
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-245-cultural-responsiveness-in-aba-a-hawaiian-perspective-with-dr-naomi-tachera-and-dr-sara-sato/
Indigenous School Psychology with Dr. Lisa Aguilar, Bryanna Kinilicheene, and Wamnuga Win
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-107-indigenous-school-psychology-with-lisa-aguilar-bryanna-kinilicheene-and-wamnuga-win-kiva-sam/

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Jewel Parham and Dr. Danielle Jeudy to explore representation, mentorship, and systemic change in behaviour analysis. Grounded in their work ACTing for Change, we unpack how values-driven action and organizational accountability can move the field beyond awareness into meaningful change. We discuss the realities behind the statistic that only ~5.83% of BCBAs identify as Black, and how that impacts access to mentorship, supervision, leadership, and opportunity. The conversation dives into the distinction between mentorship and sponsorship, the importance of building pipelines—not just hiring—and why sustainable systems matter more than performative equity efforts. We also explore emotional and cultural labour, barriers to supervision, and how ACT principles can guide organizations toward measurable, values-aligned change.
Register for the BABA Conference to see both of Dr. Parham's and Dr. Jeudy's presentations live or online!
https://babainfo.org/convention/
 
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UvFs0oNVbi4
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Connect with Danielle
Dr. Danielle Jeudy at Navigate Behavioral Health
https://www.navigatebh.com/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-s-jeudy-phd-bcba-d-lba-14a69b3a/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/behaviordj/
Connect with Jewel
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjewelparham/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.behaviorjawn/
Related Episodes:
Building Community in Behaviour Analysis with Dr. Jewel Parham
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-223-building-community-in-behavior-analysis-with-dr-jewel-parham
Colorism in Context with Dr. Danielle Jeudy
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-224-colorism-in-context-with-dr-danielle-jeudy/
Training the Next Generation of Black Behaviour Analysts at Florida A&M University
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-237-an-hbcu-first-training-the-next-generation-of-black-behavior-analysts-at-florida-am-university/

What if the biggest problem in ABA isn’t the client—but the system?
In this episode, Ben sits down with Michael Conteh to unpack the hidden forces shaping burnout, turnover, and growth in ABA organizations. Drawing from decades of experience scaling a company and consulting across the field, Michael breaks down why traditional clinical thinking alone isn’t enough—and how leaders can evolve to meet the complexity of modern ABA.
 
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Zgld4ZvRgR8
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Connect with Michael 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-conteh-bcba/
https://www.balancecoachingconsulting.com/
https://www.parentempowermentcoaching.com/
 
Related Episodes:
Forging Black Leaders in Behaviour Analysis with Portia James
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-142-creating-a-powerhouse-forging-black-leaders-in-behavior-analysis/
The Next Generation of Black Leaders in Behaviour Analysis with Adrienne Bradley
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-76-the-next-generation-of-black-leaders-in-behavior-analysis-empowering-success-with-adrienne-bradley-med-bcba-lba/
 

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman is joined by Dianna Yip, behaviour analyst and practitioner with over a decade of experience building services in Hong Kong.
Dianna shares her journey from Vancouver to Hong Kong and what it was like entering a system with limited services, minimal regulation, and little awareness of ABA or PBS. Over time, she helped grow access, build community, and shift perceptions—often starting from scratch.
This conversation explores how culture shapes behaviour support, from parenting expectations to professional practice. Dianna explains why positive behaviour support (PBS) has been more readily accepted than ABA in Hong Kong, and how language, history, and collaboration play a role.
Together, they unpack:
The realities of autism services in Hong Kong
Why ABA is often misunderstood—and how PBS helps bridge the gap
The challenges of privately funded care and lack of regulation
Cultural values like compliance, academic success, and authority
How to balance respect for culture with person‑centred practice
The conversation also dives into emerging ideas that are still gaining traction in the region:
Assent-based practice and mutual respect
Neurodiversity and shifting from charity to empowerment
Moving from compliance to collaboration
Dianna also shares her work in building international practitioner communities, including the Global PBS Coalition, aimed at bringing more diverse perspectives into behaviour science.
This is a thoughtful, grounded conversation about what happens when behavioural science meets culture—and how we can do better when we listen, adapt, and stay curious.
 
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/rr7g18L9J-M
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Find Diana here!
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianna-yip-plai/
PBS Asia
https://www.pbsa.asia/
P.L.A.I. Consulting
https://plaiconsulting.com/
Resources:
The Global PBS Coalition
https://globalpbscoalition.org/
Related Episodes:
Empowering The Chinese Autism Community 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-212-empowering-the-chinese-autism-community-with-hazel-lim/
Reclaiming the Constructional Approach in PBS with Dr. John Wooderson and Oliver Roschke
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/beyond-behaviour-reduction-reclaiming-the-constructional-approach-in-pbs-with-oliver-roschke-john-wooderson/  
Family Centred Positive Behaviour Support with Dr. Joe Lucyshyn
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-43-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2/
 

What does truly culturally responsive autism support look like—and who should lead it?
In this episode, Ben speaks with Dr. Davis Henderson, Dr. Candi Running Bear, and Dr. Olivia Lindly about their work adapting the Parents Taking Action program for Diné (Navajo) families. Together, they unpack how geography, language, family structure, and cultural values shape access to autism services—and how their team is working alongside communities to close those gaps.
From telehealth delivery across vast rural regions to adapting AAC tools in Indigenous languages, this conversation highlights what it really takes to move beyond “one-size-fits-all” care.
The team also shares their innovative next step: empowering parents to train educators—flipping the traditional model of expertise on its head.
What You’ll Learn
Why autism awareness and services remain limited in many Indigenous communities
How the Diné Parents Taking Action program was culturally adapted
The role of community advisory boards in ethical, effective research
How telehealth unexpectedly improved access and connection
Why AAC must be culturally and linguistically responsive
The importance of extended family systems in caregiving
How parents are being empowered to train educators
What culturally responsive autism assessment still gets wrong—and how to improve it
Key Topics & Highlights
Adapting evidence-based interventions for Indigenous communities
Barriers: rural geography, transportation, internet, and systemic gaps
Language access—including the need for autism terminology in Navajo
Cultural values like Hózhó and their role in care
AAC innovation: from iPads to paper-based systems in low-resource settings
Community connection as an intervention outcome
Expanding work to Hopi and other Indigenous communities
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/XWkC-7l19is
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About the Guests
Dr. Davis Henderson – Associate Professor, Northern Arizona University. Navajo researcher focused on communication disorders and culturally responsive care.
https://directory.nau.edu/?person=dh929
Dr. Candi Running Bear – Assistant Professor, University of New Mexico. Former special education teacher with deep experience in early childhood education on the Navajo Nation.
https://coehs.unm.edu/faculty-staff/profiles/running-bear-candi.html
Dr. Olivia Lindly – Associate Professor, Northern Arizona University. Public health researcher focused on maternal and child health and autism services.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-lindly-phd-mph-3323306/
https://directory.nau.edu/?person=ojl28
 
Research Discussed:
Lindly OJ, Running Bear CL, Henderson DE, Lopez K, Nozadi SS, Vining C, Bia S, Hill E and Leaf A (2023). Adaptation of the Parents Taking Action program for Diné (Navajo) parents of children with autism. Front. Educ. 8:1197197. doi: 10.3389/feduc.2023.1197197
Lindly, O., Running Bear, C., Henderson, D. E., Kirby, B. R., Begay, V., Shui, A., Dababnah, S., & Magaña, S. M. (2025). Pilot study of a strengths-based education program for Diné (Navajo) families of autistic children: Feasibility, fidelity, acceptability, and initial outcomes. Research in Autism, 127, 202658. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.reia.2025.202658
Related Episodes:
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-37-the-realities-of-autism-in-first-nations-communities-in-canada-with-grant-bruno-phd-candidate/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-147-culturally-responsive-care-in-indigenous-communities-with-dr-jaxcy-turietta/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/behavior-analysis-and-indigenous-ways-of-being-with-leslie-peters

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman sits down with Dr. Anna Kawennison Fetter, Indigenous licensed psychologist (enrolled member of the Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe), Assistant Professor at Duke School of Medicine in the Department of Psychiatry & Behavioural Sciences. They explore how Indigenous mental health is shaped by history, invisibility, and academic systems that were never designed to include Indigenous people.Anna shares how discovering Indigenous scholarship on historical loss, historical trauma, and the soul wound transformed her understanding of psychology—and of herself. Together, Ben and Anna unpack how settler colonialism shows up as chronic psychological stress for Indigenous students, especially in predominantly white institutions, through everyday experiences like erasure, identity policing, and cultural invalidation.The conversation dives into Anna’s research developing culturally grounded measures of stress and microaggressions, highlighting why traditional psychological models often fail to capture Indigenous lived experience—and why “you can’t see what you’re not measuring.”In the second half of the episode, Anna reflects on her time in an Indigenous‑led research group mentored by Dr. Joseph Gone. She explains how this collective, community‑based approach to research functioned almost like an intervention—offering mentorship, skill‑building, belonging, and hope in a system that regularly pushes Indigenous scholars out.This is a powerful conversation about:
Why recruitment without structural change doesn’t workHow mentorship must go beyond warmth and affirmationWhy ignorance is not an excuse to disengageAnd what becomes possible when research finally reflects lived experience
Topics Covered
Historical loss vs. intergenerational traumaThe “soul wound” and Indigenous mental healthMicroaggressions specific to Indigenous studentsInvisibility and identity policing in academic spacesEthnic identity as a buffer for well-beingIndigenous‑led research and mentorship as resistanceBuilding culturally responsive systems—not just diverse ones
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/9q86FBWMe2c
 
 
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Contact Dr. Fetter:
https://psychiatry.duke.edu/profile/anna-fetter
https://www.annakawennison.com/
Research Discussed:
Fetter, A. K., Christophe, N. K., & Thompson, M. N. (2025). Measurement invariance of the revised multigroup ethnic identity measure among a national sample of Native American and Alaska Native college students. Cultural Diversity & Ethnic Minority Psychology. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1037/cdp0000758
Fetter, A. K., Wiglesworth, A., Rey, L. F., Young, A. R., Azarani, M., & Gone, J. P. (2024). Supporting the Next Generation of Indigenous Psychologists: An Illustrative Case Example. The Counseling Psychologist, 52(7), 1174-1202. https://doi.org/10.1177/00110000241283697
Fetter, A.K., Williams, M. & Thompson, M.N. Perceived Racial Misclassification Among Native American and Alaska Native College Students: Preliminary Evidence for a Culturally Relevant Stressor. Race Soc Probl 18, 27 (2026). https://doi.org/10.1007/s12552-026-09493-1
Fetter, A. K., & Thompson, M. N. (2023). The impact of historical loss on Native American college students' mental health: The protective role of ethnic identity. Journal of Counselling Psychology, 70(5), 486–497. https://doi.org/10.1037/cou0000686
 
 

Today on Behaviour Speak, Ben sits down with Dr. Ammara Khalid for a powerful conversation on the intergenerational impact of the 1947 Partition of South Asia.
Together, they explore one of the largest mass migrations in human history and the trauma, displacement, silence, and resilience that continue to shape generations across the South Asian diaspora.
Drawing from her clinical work, research, and her own family’s migration story, Dr. Khalid discusses how trauma is passed through families not only through stories, but also through silence, survival patterns, cultural expectations, and the body itself.
Ben and Dr. Khalid discuss:
The historical and psychological impact of the Partition of India and Pakistan
Intergenerational trauma and inherited survival responses
Silence, stigma, and emotional suppression in South Asian families
Decolonizing mental health practices
The role of curiosity, compassion, storytelling, and community in healing
Cultural approaches to therapy, music, movement, spirituality, and collective care
Racism, migration, identity, and belonging in the diaspora
Dr. Khalid’s upcoming book: The South Asian Guide to Healing: Breaking the Cycle of Trauma
This episode is an important conversation about memory, migration, resilience, and healing — and about learning how to honour our histories without being trapped by them.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-Hp9ZPVZY9Q
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Resources
 The Partition Museum - https://www.partitionmuseum.org/1947 Archive Project - https://www.1947archive.org/Jessica Kingsley Publishers - https://www.jkp.com/Dr. Ammara Khalid's Website - https://riapsychologicalservices.com/Follow Dr. Ammara Khalid on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/drammarakhalid/
 
 

Recorded live at the 2025 Ontario Association for Behaviour Analysis conference, this episode brings together three conversations highlighting innovation across clinical practice, staff training, and systems-level change. From parent-friendly frameworks to improving treatment integrity in group homes to advancing assent-based care through skill-based treatment—this episode captures where the field is heading.
Watch this interview on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/7ZpBY8Bz8vU
Interview #1
1. Conrad Leung & Dr. Jenny Demark Co-authors of Complex Kids, Simple Solutions Integrated psychology + behaviour analysis practice The “Prepare, Teach, Motivate” framework Making behaviour science accessible to families
Contact:
Child Solutions 
https://www.childsolutions.ca/
Follow Child Solutions:
Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/childsolutions
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/child.solutions/
Links:
Complex Kids, Simple Solutions – Indigo link - 
https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/complex-kids-simple-solutions-how-to-raise-resilient-confident-likeable-kids/9781923011250.html
Read a sample of the book here: 
 https://octopusbooks.ca/item/enFZofQQtileYrAyAXrZPA 
Interview #2
2. Tina Saycocie, Kayla Almeida, Alana Farnum, and Luxsi Kirupanayagam (Kerry's Place - Poster Presentation)
Improving treatment integrity in supported living, increasing staff buy-in and data collection, collaboration between clinical and operational teams, real-world barriers: training, retention, and systems
Contact: 
Kerry's Place
https://kerrysplace.org/
https://www.instagram.com/kerrysplaceautismservices/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/kerry's-place-autism-services/posts/?feedView=all
https://www.facebook.com/kerrysplaceautismservices/
Interview #3
3. Kehinde Olawale & Maddie Moshe – Progressive Steps Training staff in Skill-Based Treatment (SBT) Using Behavioural Skills Training (BST) Assent, HRE (Happy, Relaxed, Engaged), and modern ABA Moving beyond compliance-based models
Contact: 
Kehinde Olawale
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kehinde-olawale-35105a190/
Maddie Moshe
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marialena-maddie-moshe-mped-bcba-r-b-a-ont-1361301a5/
Links:
Progressive Steps
https://www.progressivesteps.ca/
https://www.instagram.com/progressivesteps
 
 

What does it take to grow a profession in real time? In this episode, Reema Jubran shares an inside look at the development of behaviour analysis in Jordan—from career pathways to regional collaboration. We explore why many practitioners are committing to ABA long-term, how supervision and credentialing pathways are evolving, and the role informal networks play in connecting clinicians across the Arab world. Despite limited in-person opportunities, a strong and growing professional community is emerging—one built on shared learning, collaboration, and a clear desire for more connection. This episode highlights both the progress being made and the opportunities ahead.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/I37_sgeNbes
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Contact Reema Jubran
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/reema-jubran-81534351/
Links
Jordan Autism Society
https://www.instagram.com/jordansocietyautism?igsh=bmVsY28zdGp3djd4
 
Anahuna Jordan
https://www.instagram.com/anahuna_jo?igsh=NGhwemFpcTM0Z3M2
Sana for Special Individuals
https://www.instagram.com/sanaorgjo?igsh=c2lia3NodGhseHBr
Autism in Jordan Facebook Groups
 
https://www.facebook.com/share/18SsNVrCaY/?mibextid=wwXIfr
https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1AvoXd5Q2Z/?mibextid=wwXIfr
 
Check out these conversations for more on Behaviour Analysis in the Gulf Region:
Episode 238: Behaviour Analysis in Bahrain
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-238-behaviour-analysis-in-bahrain-with-ingy-alireza-med-ms-bcba/
Episode 149 Behaviour Analysis in Saudi Arabia
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-149-behaviouranalysis-in-saudi-arabia-with-dr-shahad-alsharif/
Episode 94: Behaviour Analysis in Lebanon and Qatar
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-94-behaviour-analysis-in-lebanon-and-qatar-with-rola-el-annan-med-bcba/
Episode 15: Behaviour Analysis in Egypt
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-15-behaviour-analysis-egypt-with-radwa-eltanab-msc-bcba/
 

In this powerful episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben sits down with Oliver Roschke and John Wooderson of Constructional Solutions to explore how the constructional approach can transform positive behaviour support.
Together, they unpack how many PBS systems—particularly within highly regulated environments—have drifted toward risk management, compliance, and behaviour reduction, often losing sight of the original aim: improving quality of life.
Oliver and John challenge the field to move away from a pathological orientation focused on “problem behaviours” and instead ask a much more human question:
What does this person want their life to look like?
The conversation explores:
The origins of PBS and its evolution in Australia
The influence of Israel Goldiamond, Tom Gilbert, Ted Carr, and Risley
Why restrictive practices can become systemically reinforced
How “problem behaviour” may be the most efficient path to valued outcomes
The power of dual social contracts with both participants and staff
Case examples involving school trauma, dementia care, social isolation, and highly restrictive environments
What practitioners can do tomorrow to start moving from a pathological to a constructional approach to PBS
This episode is both a critique and an invitation: to build systems, services, and supports that center autonomy, meaningful outcomes, and human dignity.
Key takeaway:Don’t start with what needs to stop. Start with where the person wants to go.
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Contact Oliver and John:
Constructional Solutions
https://constructionalsolutions.com.au/
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-roschke-5ba05074/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-wooderson-6257798a/
Links:
The Constructional Approach Facebook Group: https://m.facebook.com/groups/700952357829957/?ref=share&mibextid=wwXIfr
Articles and Books Referenced:
Wooderson, J. R., Roschke, O., Fox, R. A., & Hayward, B. A. (2026). Moving from a pathological to a constructional approach to positive behaviour support in Australian disability services. Research and Practice in Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities, 1–17. https://doi.org/10.1080/23297018.2026.2644354
Carr, E. G., Dunlap, G., Horner, R. H., Koegel, R. L., Turnbull, A. P., Sailor, W., ... & Fox, L. (2002). Positive behavior support: Evolution of an applied science. Journal of positive behavior interventions, 4(1), 4-16. https://doi.org/10.1177/109830070200400102
Donnellan, A. M., LaVigna, G. W., Negri-Shoultz, N., & Fassbender, L. L. (1988). Progress without punishment: Effective approaches for learners with behavior problems. Teachers College Press.
Goldiamond, Israel (1974). Toward a Constructional Approach to Social Problems. Behavior and Philosophy 2 (1):1.
 
Special Series on The Constructional Approach
This episode is the fourth installment in our ongoing series on the constructional approaches in behaviour analysis. I encourage you to check out the first three episodes. If you are new to this topic, Episode 250 is a great place to start 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-250-the-constructional-approach-a-primer-with-awab-abdel-jalil/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-252-applications-of-the-constructional-approach-with-dr-madhura-deshpande/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-257-a-compassionate-approach-to-exposure-therapy-with-danielle-cohen/
Episodes on Positive Behaviour Support
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-23-person-driven-positive-behaviour-support-for-traumatic-brain-injury-with-dr-kate-gould-dpsych/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-43-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-44-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-2/
 

In this episode, Ben speaks with Rahma Farah, Ikram Buralle, Suaad Jama, and Nasteya Mahamoud of the Somali Behaviour Analysis Association, a growing, community-led initiative focused on expanding autism awareness and behaviour analytic services for Somali populations. Drawing from their experiences across Somalia and the diaspora, the group shares the realities of introducing ABA in a region where awareness of autism is still emerging, stigma remains a significant barrier, and access to trained professionals is extremely limited. Through advocacy, education, and community-building, they are working to lay the foundation for sustainable, culturally relevant services—while also inspiring the next generation of Somali behaviour analysts.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/0BATtF526HA
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BACB: 1.0 EthicsIBAO:  1.0 CulturalQABA: 1.0 EthicsCBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity 
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Contact The Somali Behaviour Analysis Association:
LinkTree:
https://linktr.ee/sbaaofficial?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=9fde82a3-2e24-452b-93b8-4267f277df5d
Website:
https://somalibehaviouranalysisassociation.org/
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/company/somali-behaviour-analysis-association/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/sbaa.official
Ikram Buralle:
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ikramburalle/
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/ikramtalksbehavior/
Rahma Farah
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahma-farah-92084b120/
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/prospering_minds_consultancy/
Website:
https://prosperingmindsconsultancy.co.uk/
Suaad Jama
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/suaa.aad/
Nasteya Mahamoud
LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nasteya-mahamud-548241184/
Links:
Dhoodaan
https://www.instagram.com/dhoodaan_/
Three related episodes of Behaviour Speak, which I think you might find really interesting, would be:
Episode 232: Behaviour Analysis in Sudan
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-232-behaviour-analysis-in-sudan-with-salma-abdelrahmanabdalla-med-iba-qba/
Episode 218: Behaviour Analysis in Morocco
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-218-behavior-analysis-in-morocco-with-mina-el-qalli-qasp-s-iba/
Episode 198: Behaviour Analysis in the UK  (featuring Rahma Farah!)
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-198-the-evolution-of-behavior-analysis-in-the-uk-with-rahma-farah-and-rochelle-gray/

In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Ben sits down with Dr. Setareh (Star) Moslemi, an Iranian behaviour analyst whose journey into the field of ABA was shaped by displacement, loss, and a profound sense of responsibility. Growing up in Iran as a member of the Baháʼí Faith, Star experienced systemic barriers to education and opportunity. At 16, her family made the difficult decision to leave Iran in search of a future where she and her siblings could access education. Shortly after arriving in Turkey, her father—who had risked everything to make that journey possible—passed away. That experience became a defining moment. In this conversation, Star reflects on how her father’s sacrifice, her identity, and her lived experience shaped her path into behaviour analysis—and her ongoing mission to expand autism support for Farsi-speaking families, many of whom face significant barriers to accessing services.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/zv8EL4imMjg
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO:  1.5 CulturalQABA: 1.5 EthicsCBA/CPD: 1.5 Cultural Diversity 
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Contact Star:
Website:
https://www.behaviortalkwithstar.com/
Faculty Page at University of North Texas
https://pahs.unt.edu/behv/bao/faculty-staff.html
Danaa School on IG
https://www.instagram.com/school.danaa/
ABA Talk With Star Podcast (ای بی ای تاک با ستاره)
https://abatalkwithstar.buzzsprout.com/
Socials
https://www.instagram.com/dr.setareh.moslemi/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/setareh-dehghani-moslemi-phd-bcba-d-b1b904327/
 
Two other episodes, which I think you might find really interesting, would be:
Episode 239: Supporting Refugee and Migrant Students Amid Climate and War-Induced Displacement with Dr. Diana Diaków 
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-239-supporting-refugee-and-migrant-students-amid-climate-and-war-induced-displacement-with-dr-diana-diakow/
Episode 240: Voices From Gaza:  Understanding War Trauma with Dr. Iman Farajallah
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-240-voices-from-gaza-understanding-war-trauma-with-dr-iman-farajallah/
 
 

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben sits down with Dr. Monica Gilbert to unpack what’s often missing in behaviour analysis: true engagement. While clinicians are trained in evidence-based interventions, many still struggle with caregiver buy-in, staff engagement, and sustained change. Dr. Gilbert argues the issue isn’t the science—it’s the conversation. Drawing from her work in clinical psychology and behaviour analysis, she introduces motivational interviewing (MI) as more than a technique—it’s a way of being. From understanding ambivalence to aligning with a client’s stage of change, this conversation challenges the compliance mindset and replaces it with collaboration, autonomy, and meaningful partnership. If you’ve ever felt like your interventions “should work” but aren’t landing—this episode is your missing piece.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Tqu1-iFtMws
This episode is presented by our founding academic partner, the Doctor of Education in the field of Applied Behaviour Analysis program at Western University’s Faculty of Education. 
Program Information: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/applied-behaviour-analysis.html
How to apply: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/apply.html
Program brochure: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/foe120_edd_aba_r1.png
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.0 LearningIBAO:  1.0 ABA TopicsQABA: 1.0 GeneralCBA/CPD: 1.0 Learning  
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Contact Dr. Gilbert
https://drmonicagilbert.com/
Crystal Minds Psychological Services
https://cmpstherapy.com/owner-profile
 
Links:
MI For Change Podcast
https://open.spotify.com/show/1RFSGrj1w5MPjTQpEN4Vi5?si=159a5e5e7c8b4855'
How to Stop Talking and Start Communicating with Motivational Interviewing: Building Effective Partnerships with Caregivers: A Practical Guide for Behavior Therapists By Dr. Monica Gilbert
https://a.co/d/0h6wOGcn
MINT:
https://motivationalinterviewing.org/
 
Article on The Transtheoretical Model: 
Prochaska, J. O., & Velicer, W. F. (1997). The transtheoretical model of health behavior change. American journal of health promotion : AJHP, 12(1), 38–48. https://doi.org/10.4278/0890-1171-12.1.38
For more conversations on approaches towards buy-in and collaboration check out these two episodes:
Episode 71: The Magic Of The ACT Matrix
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-71-the-magic-of-the-act-matrix-with-mary-penrice-edmondson-ms-bcba-tina-long-med-bcba-and-monica-peters-mads-bcba/
Episode 20:  Consulting in Group Homes Using ACT
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-20-consulting-in-group-homes-using-act-with-monica-peters-mads-bcba/
 
 

In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben sits down with Hong Chun Tan and Alexa Goh to explore the rapid development of Applied Behaviour Analysis (ABA) in Malaysia. What began as parent-led initiatives has evolved into a coordinated national effort—complete with certification pathways, university programs, and a growing professional community.
Hong and Alexa share the behind-the-scenes story of forming the Malaysia Association for Behaviour Analysis (MABA), developing national standards, launching the first graduate-level ABA program in Southeast Asia, and introducing the MCBA (Malaysia Certified Behaviour Analyst) credential.
They also discuss the cultural, logistical, and ethical considerations of building ABA infrastructure in a unique regional context—and what other countries can learn from Malaysia’s approach.
Watch on YouTube!:  https://youtu.be/VRjkVPemB94
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BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO:  1.5  CulturalQABA: 1.5  GeneralCBA:    1.5  Cultural Diversity 
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Contact:
Alexa Goh
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexagoh/
Hong Chun Tan
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hong-chun-tan-msc-bcba-qba-mcba-lba-dha-doh-a6ab7567/
Links:
MABA (Malaysia Association for Behaviour Analysis)
https://m-aba.com/
Sunway University ABA Program
https://sunwayuniversity.edu.my/faculty-of-medical-and-life-sciences/courses/master-of-applied-behaviour-analysis\
SEA ABA Conference, where professionals are coming together to shape the future of ABA in Southeast Asia.
https://seaaba.org/
Related Episodes:
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-241-behaviour-analysis-in-the-philippines-with-razelle-kaye-castillo-bcaba-kristine-gomez-ma-bcba-kathryn-mendoza-ma-ed-bcba/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-211-the-florida-child-welfare-behavior-analysis-services-program-with-han-leong-goh-phd-bcba-d-lba/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/incorporating-filipino-values-in-behavioral-health-with-dr-pauline-tolentino-pablo-dbh-bcba/
 

What happens when there are no autism services in your country? In this episode, Ben speaks with Maxcia Williams, a parent, advocate, and behaviour technician in the Turks & Caicos Islands, about her journey raising a son with autism in a system that didn’t yet exist—and how she helped build one. From navigating stigma and cultural myths to founding the Hope Foundation for Autism Awareness, Maxcia shares what it means to move from isolation to impact. This conversation explores culturally responsive care, workforce challenges in small communities, and the power of caregiver-led change. At the heart of the episode is Israel—Maxcia’s son—whose journey into self-advocacy, homeschooling, and authorship reminds us that autism is not a limitation, but a different path.
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZqhcnZnjN4I
This episode is presented by our founding academic partner, the Doctor of Education in the field of Applied Behaviour Analysis program at Western University’s Faculty of Education. 
Program Information: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/applied-behaviour-analysis.html
How to apply: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/apply.html
Program brochure: https://www.edu.uwo.ca/graduate-education/edd/foe120_edd_aba_r1.png
Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop)
BACB: 1.5 EthicsIBAO:  1.5 CulturalQABA: 1.5 GeneralCBA/CPD: 1.5 Cultural Diversity   
Follow us!
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LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/
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Contact Maxcia
LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxcia-williams-ibt-ados-2-administrator-1b735a77/
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/maximalicious/
The Elephant Rooms - (The clinic Maxcia works in)
https://theelephantrooms.com/team/
Links:
What Happens Next?  by Isreal Rigby
https://www.amazon.com/What-Happens-Next-Isreal-Rigby-ebook/dp/B0CTZV63ZM
Caribbean Association for Behaviour Analysis
https://caribbeanba.org/leadership/
The Black Association of Behavior Analysts
https://babainfo.org/
International Behavior Analysis Association
https://theibao.com/
To learn more about behaviour analysis in the Caribbean, check out these interviews:https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-93-behaviour-analysis-in-the-caribbean-with-kim-woolery-gabi-torres-and-sloane-pharr-strang/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-97-bridging-the-gap-culturally-responsive-telehealth-and-behavior-analysis-with-kimberly-woolery-ms-bcba/
https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/epiosde-187-culturally-grounded-autism-training-for-black-parents-with-camille-proctor/